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bart_calendar August 6 2014, 12:04:26 UTC
I don't get why Israel seems to be intentionally making themselves look bad.

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andrewducker August 6 2014, 12:22:04 UTC
I think that Israel has, historically, gotten a very easy ride, because the media didn't tend to cover them Doing Bad Things - and instead focussed on Palestinians Doing Bad Things.

I mean, they got out of things like the Second Intifada without much in the way of negative publicity. They presumably assumed this would go the same way.

Unluckily, for them, we're now getting reporting via a number of different channels now, so it's much easier for news to reach us, even if the general media isn't initially covering it.

I've seen discussions of whether destroying Gaza's power generation ability was actually a strike to cut off the bloggers in the area...

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bart_calendar August 6 2014, 12:23:39 UTC
That blogger idea could easily be true.

I wonder if no longer getting an easy ride will change their tactics or cause them to double down.

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andrewducker August 6 2014, 12:27:35 UTC
The thing about Israel is that the situation between them and Palestine has been in a holding position for decades. There's not been any kind of end-game in sight for either side, and the basic goals of (the extreme of) both sides was entirely incompatible.

Sorting out The Troubles took both sides in Northern Ireland going "You know what, I'm fed up with this, and it's not getting me anywhere." We'll need something similar to happen in Israel/Palestine for that to get sorted.

(And that's not terribly likely while Israel is surrounded by other countries that are still not recognising its existence.)

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cartesiandaemon August 6 2014, 12:07:01 UTC
I've finally seen GoTG and re-read yesterday's links. I agreed with people who said it was great fun, and maybe more diverse than most films, but still had notable problems ( ... )

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momentsmusicaux August 6 2014, 12:34:41 UTC
Yeah, I thought GotG had a plot.

Admittedly, I did wonder where the green woman vanished to. She was in one scene on the ship and then, zap, gone.

But anyway, plot: StarLord is some sort of thief nicking stuff for a fence. He gets into hot water. Two sets of people are after him for different reasons. They all end up in prison together, where they form an alliance of convenience. After a bit of a clash of motivations, they go to try to sell the McGuffin, where they realize that the McGuffin is a Really Big Thing and decide to try to do the Right Thing. They succeed.

See! Plot!

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usmu August 6 2014, 14:47:01 UTC
I wonder how Chapman was able to actually have the interview with The Independent, as his head is so far up his ass it must have disappeared. The fact he's actually been nominated for the Turner says it all: you need to be full of hot air to accomplish that. These are the people that give art a bad name. Such a shame.

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kerrypolka August 6 2014, 16:18:38 UTC
With the growing female audience, hopefully it will also help in pushing forward a solo superhero movie with a female lead.

HOLLOW LAUGHTER

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