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Awesome women from Scottish history: Black Agnes cartesiandaemon July 12 2014, 11:31:48 UTC
And once again, a tidbit from history which sounded a bit unrealistic when I thought GRRM had made it up :)

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Re: Awesome women from Scottish history: Black Agnes andrewducker July 12 2014, 11:39:31 UTC
History: If you made it up, nobody would believe you.

I got it from AMuseOfFyre - she got it from Horrible Histories:
http://amuseoffyre.tumblr.com/post/91478545250/teflonly-this-day-in-horrible-history-10

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Re: Awesome women from Scottish history: Black Agnes bart_calendar July 12 2014, 11:42:15 UTC
It would be interesting to create a chart of who the real people the GOT characters are based on.

Tyrian is Richard III, and most of the rest are from the War of the Roses, but I'm sure there are more references in there.

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Re: Awesome women from Scottish history: Black Agnes andrewducker July 12 2014, 12:09:53 UTC
Maybe when George is done we can get him to annotate the whole thing :->

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The list of places that are American is more complex than I thought... cartesiandaemon July 12 2014, 11:39:02 UTC
Oh wow, it's like zero punctuation for american history! :)

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Re: The list of places that are American is more complex than I thought... snarlish July 12 2014, 11:52:00 UTC
I got distracted by Palmyra being pronounced as Palm Ira instead of Palm Era.

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Re: The list of places that are American is more complex than I thought... del_c July 12 2014, 14:26:14 UTC
And he pronounces Palau "Pow-loo", which is one of those classic "not pronouncing the letters that are right there in front of you".

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Re: The list of places that are American is more complex than I thought... snarlish July 12 2014, 20:38:23 UTC
one might even be irate at the errors

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police brutality snarlish July 12 2014, 17:37:43 UTC
oof. You'd think with all the lawsuits, proliferation of surveillance and citizens with instant upload video capture on their cells that enforcement would think twice before doing something like this, but nope: Pigs gotta be pigs.

I speak from witnessing 2 distressing incidents of state police brutality in the '90s, one of them involving a child. In both instances the officer(s) were suspended briefly with pay and reinstated when victims withdrew their complaints in lieue of a relatively small payment.

I don't know the solution, but as more and more police are being required to have cameras while on duty, i know it's lessening this problem.

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Re: police brutality andrewducker July 13 2014, 16:03:14 UTC
Yeah, the cameras seem to make a massive positive difference.

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I'm impressed apostle_of_eris July 12 2014, 19:07:10 UTC
Not being much into medieval English history, I'd never heard of Black Agnes. Patrick Dunbar was a lucky man.
And I'm a better-than averagely informed American with a modest map fetish, but I'd never heard of our Palmyra.

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spacelem July 12 2014, 22:20:17 UTC
It seems to have disappeared, but my mother's LJ username used to be blackagnes.

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