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bart_calendar June 26 2014, 11:15:04 UTC
We have different business jargon in the US but is an "0 hours exclusivity clause" the same as a "no work non compete clause?" If so they can be very beneficial ( ... )

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randomchris June 26 2014, 11:32:57 UTC
It's similar in effect - but completely unpaid. The exclusivity clause means that you only get paid for the hours you work.

I'd be fine with an exclusivity clause if it had, say, a 20-hour minimum (even in weeks you don't work you get 20 hours pay) but the ones being banned here don't have any minimum pay. People are getting zero work and zero pay, and not being allowed to look for work elsewhere.

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bart_calendar June 26 2014, 11:34:26 UTC
Oh. Ok. That sucks!

I couldn't tell from the article what it meant and was trying to reason it out and no work non compete retainers seemed to be what it meant but I couldn't be sure.

Thanks!

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a_pawson June 26 2014, 11:33:17 UTC
In the UK a zero hours contract means you are employed by a company but they do not guarantee you any work. Essentially they tell you the day before whether there is any work or not the following day. Having a non-compete clause in there as well means if they decide not to give you any work then you are fucked as you can't go and work for anyone else either.

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simont June 26 2014, 12:25:42 UTC
Today two of your links made me expect to see a different thing at the other end of them :-)

"Everyone is totally just winging it, all the time": I had just that moment seen this webcomic which seemed to be more or less saying the same thing.

And the Aliens coffee thing is a cut-down version of a longer video which I saw someone or other link to yesterday. (Though I'm not sure I recommend watching the full thing now - the GIF contains the punchline...)

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andrewducker June 26 2014, 21:08:39 UTC
I watched it anyway - it was kinda pretty!

And yes, Savage Chickens is sometimes rather good.

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Men In Suits danieldwilliam June 26 2014, 12:27:34 UTC
She loves the pensive.

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coth June 26 2014, 13:42:05 UTC
Very good news on the solar panels.

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andrewducker June 26 2014, 20:52:47 UTC
Yeah, lots of hopefuly stuff going on in that area. Give it another ten years and we might see a tipping point!

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bohemiancoast June 26 2014, 14:14:12 UTC
The weird thing about that 'there are generations who don't remember the first memes' is that that isn't remotely one of the first Internet memes.

mutter mutter dancing baby mutter mutter hamster dance mutter mutter all your base

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philmophlegm June 26 2014, 14:29:24 UTC
...and now I can't get the Hamster Dance music out of my head.

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alextfish June 26 2014, 17:20:19 UTC
It does prove their point, a fortiori, though.

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bohemiancoast June 26 2014, 19:24:32 UTC
And when I went to look and make sure I'd not missed an important early one (I didn't), I was reminded of KIbo on Usenet, whose infamous ubiquity pre-dated all of these by many years.

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