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andrewducker November 25 2011, 12:02:55 UTC
This is true for a first child (doubling of risk from 0.45% to 0.93%, but not even slightly true for further children, where the article states "For a second birth there was no difference in the risk to babies between home, a midwife-led unit or a doctor-led hospital unit."

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andrewducker November 25 2011, 12:24:53 UTC
This single study being the largest one carried out in the UK, covering tens of thousands of births. If you want to dispute its findings then feel free to point to opposing data.

Looking at the data for second children:
For multiparous women, there were no significant differences in adverse perinatal outcomes between planned home births or midwifery unit births and planned births in obstetric units.

For multiparous women, birth in a non-obstetric unit setting significantly and substantially reduced the odds of having an intrapartum caesarean section, instrumental delivery or episiotomy.

So your outcomes are as good at home, and the odds of you not being sliced open are better.

https://www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/birthplace/results

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danieldwilliam November 25 2011, 12:00:14 UTC
I'm not advocating shooting journalists or bankers but I am surprised that neither group has seen members become the victims of vigilanties or terrorists.

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momentsmusicaux November 25 2011, 12:03:40 UTC
Could you put a note in the link title when it's a PDF?
(Or recommend a Firefox plugin that can open them rather than download :)

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andrewducker November 25 2011, 12:10:05 UTC
I didn't realise Adobe Reader didn't work on a Mac!

Try this? http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/

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andrewducker November 25 2011, 12:31:53 UTC
I was confused to. There are numerous mentions of Adobe Reader not working as a plugin for Firefox Mac, but some of the pages seem to be out of date. I'm confused, frankly.

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erratio November 25 2011, 18:00:27 UTC
If you're interested in reading more about the glucose/motivation stuff, Roy Baumeister keeps a lovely page where you can get pdfs of his papers emailed to you. He's also looked at sex drive.

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skreidle December 2 2011, 20:59:06 UTC
Gardasil has been in use here for a few years, though it's only been approved for use in women up to age 26, if I recall correctly. Sucks to be older than that -- you can't get it on request, It Hasn't Been Approved.

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