I have the same struggle. I don't want to just work and sleep during the week, and I don't even have kids to take care of and worry about. There will never be enough time. The thing about the rich is that they can buy time. Laundry? Cooking? Cleaning? Planning travel? Figuring out annoying bureaucratic stuff? Hire someone to do all that.
One Piece must be popular for a reason, but damn, the number of books and episodes is extremely daunting to me. I don't think I'll ever watch it.
I also lament that "prioritizing" means neglecting all of my hobbies and interests except for one or two, basically... :/
Would watching (or re-watching) One Piece with Chinese subtitles or a Chinese dub be a consideration?
I think this kind of modern society is perfect at over-stretching us and creating anxiety. We have too many options: a million books, shows, movies, podcasts, bands, online accounts, tabs... It becomes overwhelming.
I'm glad you got around to that bike ride! You look happy.
One Piece is definitely daunting. I think watching the Netflix show is good enough to get a sense of the characters and the story, although it doesn't really kick off into the long, epic arcs until what will probably be season 3 of the live action. But just from the point of view of having cheerful, optimistic characters who keep striving against all odds to do the right and honorable thing, that was captured very well by the Netflix show. I heard they got the anime voice actors to do the Japanese dub so it might even be fun for learning Japanese.
I'm not sure about Chinese dubs of anime. Here in Taiwan the cool kids watch anime in Japanese with subtitles, not sure about China. I should check out some of the anime boards to see if there are any highly rated Chinese ones. Last time i checked there wasn't many other than the ten zillionth retelling of Journey to the West or Romance of Three Kingdoms... When i lived in China i got the sense that the reason all these classic novels keep getting remade is because it's too dangerous to try
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I just assumed a Chinese or Mandarin dub exists, but maybe Chinese subtitles could be okay too? My friend said she learned Spanish from watching anime in Japanese with Spanish subtitles... She also lived in Spain for two years, but she told me she'd look up words in the subtitles and that it worked for her because she knew she'd make time for anime.
I see. That's too bad. Perhaps you could check out the webtoon app? Most webtoons are from Korea, but again, reading them in Chinese could be a way to learn. (I mean, reading webtoons in English is fun too lol)
I don't consume any Chinese media, so I wouldn't know where to start.
I never thought about trying to read subtitles in Chinese for a show in a third language. I found the subtitles tend to go a bit too fast for me to read in Chinese shows (that's why visual novels are better), but perhaps cartoons/anime would have less dense dialog and a more theatrical presentation that'd help.
I saw a lot of people reading Chinese-language webtoons back when i was talking public transport more often. I should check it out! The journey continues...
"Is fretting about hobbies my new hobby?" 😂 I adore you! And, since I've not had a real job in almost a year, it's become a lot more apparent to me that deciding what to do with the time you're not working or sleeping takes up a lot of mental space for working people under capitalism. There is lots of grief about doing "too little " or not enough of the "right stuff ". It's so oppressive!
My best job was when I worked for a Danish company. I'm still sorta sad they sold it to an American company and it went to shit, but on the other hand the sale is what allowed me to survive the past year without needing to really look for another job. So, ya win some you lose some. Danish work culture has a lot of weirdness. If you do end up working with Danes look up Kay Xander Mellish. She's an American who educates foreigns about how to deal with Danish cultural norms.
I'd be very interested to learn about Danish cultural norms. Thanks for the tip! American work culture **feels** pretty toxic, I know that much... and I only hear stories of how there are other countries where it is illegal to be fired for having a long term illness, or several months of maternity/paternity leave, or where mandatory overtime is only a thing in emergency services rather than like... regular everyday jobs like working in a billing department or a retail shift worker. I have to *imagine* what it's like to work somewhere for 20 years and STILL be able to be fired/laid off at any time with little or no recourse. It just sounds... nice, ya know?
Is there any language groups you could go to chat with native folks? Taiwanese is a bit different from Mandarin from what I gather. I was part time raised by a Taiwanese family, and I recall the mom saying Mandarin was different.
I just started going to a Spanish chat group. I’m Intermediate level speaker but I am used to certain peoples voices and accents, and figures it would help me to chat with other folks.
Taiwanese is a completely different language to Mandarin, it's not mutually intelligible. It's like the difference between French and Spanish. About 70% of people here speak it at home, and you still hear it used in the markets or for private conversations, but it's never used in white collar environments, schools or anywhere "posh". It's also won't help if the area you live has more Hakka, indigenous or migrants that arrived since WW2, and northern part of Taiwan is famous for being more post-WW2 migrants and less of the "original" migrants whose native language was Hokkien (now called Taiwanese, in Taiwan).
The lingua franca of Taiwan is Mandarin, same as it is in China, and that's what people generally mean when they talk about learning "Chinese". The thing is, Mandarin as it's used in China and Mandarin as it's used in Taiwan is also quite different. Maybe similar to the difference between Spanish as it's spoken in Spain versus Spanish as it's spoken in Mexico. If you are fluent in one you can certainly understand the other, but a
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I have the same struggle. I don't want to just work and sleep during the week, and I don't even have kids to take care of and worry about. There will never be enough time. The thing about the rich is that they can buy time. Laundry? Cooking? Cleaning? Planning travel? Figuring out annoying bureaucratic stuff? Hire someone to do all that.
One Piece must be popular for a reason, but damn, the number of books and episodes is extremely daunting to me. I don't think I'll ever watch it.
I also lament that "prioritizing" means neglecting all of my hobbies and interests except for one or two, basically... :/
Would watching (or re-watching) One Piece with Chinese subtitles or a Chinese dub be a consideration?
I think this kind of modern society is perfect at over-stretching us and creating anxiety. We have too many options: a million books, shows, movies, podcasts, bands, online accounts, tabs... It becomes overwhelming.
I'm glad you got around to that bike ride! You look happy.
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One Piece is definitely daunting. I think watching the Netflix show is good enough to get a sense of the characters and the story, although it doesn't really kick off into the long, epic arcs until what will probably be season 3 of the live action. But just from the point of view of having cheerful, optimistic characters who keep striving against all odds to do the right and honorable thing, that was captured very well by the Netflix show. I heard they got the anime voice actors to do the Japanese dub so it might even be fun for learning Japanese.
I'm not sure about Chinese dubs of anime. Here in Taiwan the cool kids watch anime in Japanese with subtitles, not sure about China. I should check out some of the anime boards to see if there are any highly rated Chinese ones. Last time i checked there wasn't many other than the ten zillionth retelling of Journey to the West or Romance of Three Kingdoms... When i lived in China i got the sense that the reason all these classic novels keep getting remade is because it's too dangerous to try ( ... )
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I didn't realize there was a Netflix show. Cool
I just assumed a Chinese or Mandarin dub exists, but maybe Chinese subtitles could be okay too? My friend said she learned Spanish from watching anime in Japanese with Spanish subtitles... She also lived in Spain for two years, but she told me she'd look up words in the subtitles and that it worked for her because she knew she'd make time for anime.
I see. That's too bad. Perhaps you could check out the webtoon app? Most webtoons are from Korea, but again, reading them in Chinese could be a way to learn. (I mean, reading webtoons in English is fun too lol)
I don't consume any Chinese media, so I wouldn't know where to start.
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I never thought about trying to read subtitles in Chinese for a show in a third language. I found the subtitles tend to go a bit too fast for me to read in Chinese shows (that's why visual novels are better), but perhaps cartoons/anime would have less dense dialog and a more theatrical presentation that'd help.
I saw a lot of people reading Chinese-language webtoons back when i was talking public transport more often. I should check it out! The journey continues...
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"Is fretting about hobbies my new hobby?" 😂
I adore you! And, since I've not had a real job in almost a year, it's become a lot more apparent to me that deciding what to do with the time you're not working or sleeping takes up a lot of mental space for working people under capitalism. There is lots of grief about doing "too little " or not enough of the "right stuff ". It's so oppressive!
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My best job was when I worked for a Danish company. I'm still sorta sad they sold it to an American company and it went to shit, but on the other hand the sale is what allowed me to survive the past year without needing to really look for another job. So, ya win some you lose some. Danish work culture has a lot of weirdness. If you do end up working with Danes look up Kay Xander Mellish. She's an American who educates foreigns about how to deal with Danish cultural norms.
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I'd be very interested to learn about Danish cultural norms. Thanks for the tip! American work culture **feels** pretty toxic, I know that much... and I only hear stories of how there are other countries where it is illegal to be fired for having a long term illness, or several months of maternity/paternity leave, or where mandatory overtime is only a thing in emergency services rather than like... regular everyday jobs like working in a billing department or a retail shift worker. I have to *imagine* what it's like to work somewhere for 20 years and STILL be able to be fired/laid off at any time with little or no recourse.
It just sounds... nice, ya know?
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I just started going to a Spanish chat group. I’m
Intermediate level speaker but I am used to certain peoples voices and accents, and figures it would help me to chat with other folks.
YMMV, obviously.
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Taiwanese is a completely different language to Mandarin, it's not mutually intelligible. It's like the difference between French and Spanish. About 70% of people here speak it at home, and you still hear it used in the markets or for private conversations, but it's never used in white collar environments, schools or anywhere "posh". It's also won't help if the area you live has more Hakka, indigenous or migrants that arrived since WW2, and northern part of Taiwan is famous for being more post-WW2 migrants and less of the "original" migrants whose native language was Hokkien (now called Taiwanese, in Taiwan).
The lingua franca of Taiwan is Mandarin, same as it is in China, and that's what people generally mean when they talk about learning "Chinese". The thing is, Mandarin as it's used in China and Mandarin as it's used in Taiwan is also quite different. Maybe similar to the difference between Spanish as it's spoken in Spain versus Spanish as it's spoken in Mexico. If you are fluent in one you can certainly understand the other, but a ( ... )
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