DW: Let's Kill Hitler

[amilyn]

I. Have. So. Much. Love!!!!

Also? I want to watch/listen to Alex Kingston (who's a native speaker) say "Führer" another 50 times or so till I can say it properly. I find it a VERY difficult word to say correctly.

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[hawkmoth]

Jumpers? I heard jodhpurs. Now I'm not sure which makes more sense...

You're right though--SO MUCH JOY!

[amilyn]

Maybe it was jodhpurs. That's what Lisa heard, and it would explain why she was going to check out her ass. But..."jumpers" would then be about her breasts.

So...dunno

Either way...JOY!

[tempertemper]

Twas definitely jodhpurs :)

[amilyn]

Ah, thanks. I have auditory processing issues. Last night I could not, without rewinding and CAREFUL listening, tell the differences between "Johnny," "Tommy," and "Tony." Like, at all.

Have we SEEN her in jodhpurs? Because I'd go for that! :-)

I LOVED THIS!!!!

[fourth_rose]

*g* I suppose the difficulty in saying "Führer" is the "ü" sound? In this case, try this: shape your lips as if you wanted to say "oo" (as in "boo"), but say "ee" instead :)

[amilyn]

Oh, I can make the "ü" but not *with* an "r" alongside it. I find "für" about as difficult to say.

It's the problem of having a rhotic accent and trying to make a non-native sound along with a non-rhotic "r" sound together. And, well, I'm TOTALLY a Midwesterner with an accent that borders on the Central Midland/Inland South. This guy is from the town I'm from, but has cleaned up his accent for national broadcast a bit. MANY of the people I grew up around sounded like this. The other "extreme" is John Goodman's St. Louis accent (NORTH from me), and Scott Bakula's St. Louis accent both have *hints* of the Inland South. The BEST example, though, of what I grew up around, and how EVERYONE in my family spoke, is this politician from a few towns over who is speaking on what was my childhood ABC affiliate, and it includes a pronunciation of "wash" that sounds like "worsh," including "Worshington, D.C.".

So...it's that combination of those two sounds in quick succession/combination.

[fourth_rose]

If it's any consolation, in most Southern German accents "für" is pronounced more like "fü-ah", so there's not really an "r" sound at all, and the middle "r" in "Führer" is spoken so far at the back of the throat that it's more of an aspirated "h" sound...

[amilyn]

Yeah, my "für" is pretty much a "fü-ah" and I've been mainlining "I was on my way to a gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled..." line and mimicking Alex Kingston's pronunciation (which is exactly as you describe). I'm getting better. :-)

Alex Kingston just...YUM. And...German too! *happy*sigh*

[tempertemper]

I quite enjoyed but my kids pronounced it a 'really boring episode' and didn't get all the Melody/River stuff which made me sad :(

[amilyn]

Ah, how SAD!

MY kids giggled and giggled.

Of course, I also stopped and did rewind 4 times on "I was on my way to a gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled," line, then explained. SO awesome.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SHOW!

And Alex Kingston.

[englishlitrulz]

I don't understand "rhotic" and "non-rhotic." *hangs head*

[amilyn]

"Rhotic" languages pronounce the "r" in words like "where" and "card" and "doctor" as an "rrrrr." "Non-rhotic" languages pronounce those words in a way connected to "whay-uh," "cahd" and "doc-tuh."

[mtgat]

I was so damn happy, I cannot even say. Abrazak called that Mels was River, and he wasn't even watching. :)