Starbuck is back, if you liked her in her judgemental and self-rightous mode. She lost the arguments with Gaeta and Hot Dog on substance, and then turned back into "warrior", which could be because it's easier than to grapple with the questions she has about herself. She missed the point entirely with the prisoner - if it becomes us humans verses them humans, then they might as well go back to Earth and wait to die. Adama still understands that, even though he's backed into a corner of his own making. This kind of Kara is not one I like myself...
Well, it may just be my own particular viewpoint (and hey, different strokes for different folks, absolutely!), but I honestly didn't get the "self-righteous" vibe at all tonight. Judgmental perhaps - her needling of HotDog was a little over the top, though there again I think it was meant to be something friendly that got out of control - but in terms of self-righteous, I don't see it.
In my opinion, most of the episode was her doing what she needed to do in order to take back the ship and ensure its safety. She is of course acting with her own personal biases, and a major one is that if anyone or anything threatens Galactica, she will defend it. I don't see what's self-righteous about that. The rebellion absolutely has some valid points, but Kara doesn't happen to share them, and so she has chosen to stand against them. And yes, perhaps she's using this as a distraction from her own personal issues, but that's not exactly any kind of deviation from what we've seen in the past. Kara thrives on combat - it's her natural environment
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I appreciate your comments. The reason I called her self-righteous has to do with my impression over the past three episodes that she had lost herself when she found her body on Earth, that she showed that she was reduced to childness with Gaeta and Hot Dog, and she has latched on to the "Adama is right, I am right because I support Adama, and everyone else should die." And it feels like she's hiding behind that because it's so much simplier than having to deal with the whole picture...that's why she said something like that she feels "good" with the situation.
I agree totally that Gaeta is not without blame. he's polarized himself into sort of a parody of himself, also self-righteous but less eager to accept the "everyone else should die" point of view.
Adama, Tigh, Lauramythical_birdJanuary 31 2009, 05:16:25 UTC
Adama is not a bad ass, as much as someone forced to live with the situation of his own making and the pride to not give up his ship. Laura is spent, as far as I can tell. Being Adama's love partner and now escaping to a basestar should compromise any political power she has, in the current situation. She's back in business not because of love of mankind, but that she's personally pissed at Zarek. She chose to fade away from leadership after finding Earth, assumed that Adama would be the lead partner in their rule, and then is pissed that Zarek spoiled it.
Saul is the most interesting character. He's sticking with Adama out of loyalty and out of his sense of what's right, which is consistant before and after finding out he's a Cylon. Of all the characters, he's the badass - he's living his life based on the morals that he's had all along.
Re: Adama, Tigh, Lauraamidala_thraceJanuary 31 2009, 05:45:00 UTC
Perhaps not, but he certainly acted like it tonight. I've always been of the firm belief that one of this show's strengths is that it forces its viewers to examine every perspective, and to recognize that everyone has a point. Adama's side is just as valid as that of the rebels'. He is making what he believes to be the best decisions for the fleet, and the rebels disagree with that. And when questioned, he's willing to fight for what he believes in.
To the best of my knowledge, Laura and Bill's relationship is not within the public sphere yet. People can speculate all they like, but the only folks who directly know are those who were present in the airlock when the Raptor took off, and that's hardly the whole fleet. She is fleeing to the basestar because she believes that many in the fleet may still be undecided as to which side they should take, and she thinks she can sway them towards the alliance with the Cylons. Anger at Zarek is certainly a motivating factor, but so too, I believe, are her own morals. One need only look at the
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I'll admit I'm curious as to how she went from being utterly despondent last week to back to her usual self this week
Actually, I think it was pretty brilliantly set up. Kara discovers her own body. She goes through a period of being understandably shell-shocked. She gets into a verbal scrap with Gaeta; catches wind of his intentions. She picks another moody scrap, this time by poking fun at Hot Dog over his fatherhood. Hot Dog throws back at her, "Yeah, well, you've frakked over half the fleet; what have you got to show for it?" This clearly rattles her/she takes it to heart. She witnesses the crew arming themselves after the evacuation, tries to call the CIC and gets blocked out by Gaeta, puts two-and-two together. She arms herself and sets off to stop sulking and do something about it, and the first thing she finds is Lee at gun point. This, I think, is what really flips her "bad-ass" switch. Boom, boom. Head shot, another man down and she's out of there with Lee - she kisses him heatedly and looks more alive than she has all
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In my opinion, most of the episode was her doing what she needed to do in order to take back the ship and ensure its safety. She is of course acting with her own personal biases, and a major one is that if anyone or anything threatens Galactica, she will defend it. I don't see what's self-righteous about that. The rebellion absolutely has some valid points, but Kara doesn't happen to share them, and so she has chosen to stand against them. And yes, perhaps she's using this as a distraction from her own personal issues, but that's not exactly any kind of deviation from what we've seen in the past. Kara thrives on combat - it's her natural environment ( ... )
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I agree totally that Gaeta is not without blame. he's polarized himself into sort of a parody of himself, also self-righteous but less eager to accept the "everyone else should die" point of view.
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Saul is the most interesting character. He's sticking with Adama out of loyalty and out of his sense of what's right, which is consistant before and after finding out he's a Cylon. Of all the characters, he's the badass - he's living his life based on the morals that he's had all along.
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To the best of my knowledge, Laura and Bill's relationship is not within the public sphere yet. People can speculate all they like, but the only folks who directly know are those who were present in the airlock when the Raptor took off, and that's hardly the whole fleet. She is fleeing to the basestar because she believes that many in the fleet may still be undecided as to which side they should take, and she thinks she can sway them towards the alliance with the Cylons. Anger at Zarek is certainly a motivating factor, but so too, I believe, are her own morals. One need only look at the ( ... )
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Actually, I think it was pretty brilliantly set up. Kara discovers her own body. She goes through a period of being understandably shell-shocked. She gets into a verbal scrap with Gaeta; catches wind of his intentions. She picks another moody scrap, this time by poking fun at Hot Dog over his fatherhood. Hot Dog throws back at her, "Yeah, well, you've frakked over half the fleet; what have you got to show for it?" This clearly rattles her/she takes it to heart. She witnesses the crew arming themselves after the evacuation, tries to call the CIC and gets blocked out by Gaeta, puts two-and-two together. She arms herself and sets off to stop sulking and do something about it, and the first thing she finds is Lee at gun point. This, I think, is what really flips her "bad-ass" switch. Boom, boom. Head shot, another man down and she's out of there with Lee - she kisses him heatedly and looks more alive than she has all ( ... )
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