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thebunnybag March 4 2010, 03:11:06 UTC
Great thing to see when I just got finished watching "There All the Honor Lies" (I was watching it so I can cite it for my paper, really...) and the scene with Londo and Vir at the end makes me reach for the nearest thing to hug, in this case my very unhappy cat.

Beautiful. I've always wanted to do this meme but never did, not sure about what character I'd do though. You, however, did a wonderful Vir. Especially the last line, that one got the tears going and more hugging of the cat, now quite displeased with the clinging. I especially loved the part with Adira, because I too always felt that was one of Vir's most helpless scenes.

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amatara March 4 2010, 20:23:15 UTC
Wow - I wish I worked in a field where one can quote B5 in one's papers. *g* And thank you! Glad you enjoyed this, and had Dukhat nearby to hug when needed.

I've always wanted to do this meme but never did, not sure about what character I'd do though.

Would you like me to give you a prompt? No pressure, of course, but if it's just a matter about not being able to choose - how about five times Vir tried to have a personal conversation with Lennier? (or vice versa)

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thebunnybag March 5 2010, 03:26:45 UTC
Well, my paper is about music in science fiction, and part of it, I'm comparing the Vorlon/Shadow war to the revolt against 20th century atonalism (aka the protests at Stravinsky's Rite of Spring...order vs chaos, in music form! Esp. since Kosh is so fond of Gregorian chant). I hate writing papers, and hate gathering sources, but it was entertaining to sit around with books on Stravinsky and think, hmm, how does this relate to the Shadows?

Sure, I'll take one of those and see if they'll talk to me. Silly characters.

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maspalio March 4 2010, 11:14:16 UTC

That's exactly what I was hoping for and, if you weren't in a different country, I'd be hugging you right now.

I like how Vir makes a distinction between Londo as a politician and as a man. The fact that he is able to remain friends with Londo despite disagreeing with his actions is one of Virs' greatest strength as a character. Or maybe it's a weakness, but it's fascinating anyway.

And the garters he'd bought. Great Maker, the garters.

But the garters thing was supposed to be funny! How did it become so sad?

The Londo/G'Kar bonus made me smile, of course, and the ending was just the right amount of bitter-sweet.

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amatara March 4 2010, 21:02:17 UTC
Aw, thank you. *sends virtual hug to Switzerland anyway* And it was lovely to write this - made me want to cuddle them all so much (yes, even G'Kar *g*).

The fact that he is able to remain friends with Londo despite disagreeing with his actions is one of Vir's greatest strength as a character. Or maybe it's a weakness

I'm not sure which it is either, weakness or strength - might be both. In the show it was shown as the latter because Londo did prove Vir was right in not giving him up... but if that hadn't been the case, I weep for poor Vir. It would have killed him, I think.

But the garters thing was supposed to be funny! How did it become so sad?

Um - taking JMS's cue, I guess. Like he made us all happy and bouncy with all the funny Londo & G'Kar stuff, only to crush us in the space of one episode... *passes on handkerchief* I get weepy just thinking about Londo having to cancel Adira's suite, remove all the stuff he filled it with - flowers, heaps of jala, dresses, garters... Somehow, I think Londo would feel most heartbroken ( ... )

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mithen March 4 2010, 11:37:46 UTC
Oh my, that last one ripped my heart out in all the absolute best ways. Wow.

Great Maker, the garters.

I don't know why, that's such a great line--a pained sobby chuckle of a line.

Also, Vir giving G'Kar a big old hug just for the heck of it is an image that will make me smile for a while, even if it didn't actually happen in the story.

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amatara March 4 2010, 21:07:26 UTC
Thank you! Not sure if I'm allowed to feel happy about making you all teary-eyed, but I am anyway, just a little. :) Somehow, no matter how I tried, I didn't manage to write more happy hugs. Same as how I don't seem capable of writing happy sex, for some reason. Uh... Freud might have something to say about that? *g*

And - I can just imagine the look on G'Kar's face if Vir would have gone though with it. *g*

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