Oh dear. John (and all of them, really) are so fucked in the head right now but (I still want them to shag) it's nice to see the friendship forming between John and Rodney at least. I'm worried about Elizabeth though.
But they're coping. They aren't alone. And they're smart people, they learn from what they've got out of the downloads. McKay's the least traumatized because Rodney had come to terms and Sheppard's the most, because he got sledgehammered by the final events, but he's reaching out to at least have a friendship with McKay. Weir is tougher than her counterpart was, I think. She's going to use everything she remembers to keep her expedition alive and whole. That might be lonely, but she expected that going in.
Yeah, Rodney didn't even know he died, where as John had to deal with the betrayal and grief, but he didn't deal at all before he went and saved himself again.
I see Weir being tougher than her counterpart because she still has something to fight for -- the expedition. Once the other Weir was taken from her position as leader of the expedition, she was literally cast adrift a great deal more than either John or Rodney. But this version of Weir has that purpose to keep her going, much like Rodney had science and John, er, Rodney.
John seems ...not so much lost but trying to find equilibrium and Rodney seems to have found his compassionate side. Together, they seem to be making at the very least the friend connection that they had in the other timeline...
But
She stared at the blank expanse. Nothing. That's what they'd left for Elizabeth. Nothing.
*meep*
That doesn't bode well especially when John admits that he doesn't think he can trust her.
That doesn't bode well especially when John admits that he doesn't think he can trust her.
Well, remember, this Weir has to know that this Sheppard is no real fan of hers anyway -- she pulled a lot of strings to basically force him into agreeing to join the expedition. So any new hostility isn't going to wound her the way it would have Elizabeth.
Oh, that I got...but what I meant was that she seems to be falling into the same trap but this time, on top of the issue you mention there doesn't seem to be that connection to John and Rodney because of what her other self did in the other timeline.
And because of those memories...if she does isolate herself (aside: and it seems to be following the same track as in the alternate timeline. Just how much of the downloaded memories is inherent personality traits or the sum of their experiences?) what's to stop her from slipping again?
The only difference I can see here is Sumner.
Well, that and that there's only two parts left and it seems late for another timeline of doooooom. ;)
It's, so sad that they live on in the alternate versions of themselves, but trying to identify and lot let the memories consume them must be tough. John remembers but doesn't want it. Rodney seems to want it, though, and that must hurt, to remember what it felt like to love and be loved by this man, yet for it to be the same man only different must be so painful.
*sighs* Man, just, poor guys.
And Weir doesn't trust them to make the same mistakes, mistakes that they haven't even made yet.
Weir wants to take care of them all, you know. Elizabeth did, too. And Elizabeth acted, so Weir doesn't have to make a decision about the AI now, it's a moot point.
Yes. I realize that the AI is out of the picture. I was thinking more about Dagan, the fact that she still thinks Rodney or John would try to use this again after everything that had happened. It just seems sad to me.
I do also realize that she is justified in this worry, because, as you said, she wants to take care of everyone and protect them.
It's tragedy, really, because it seems that all there actions lead them back to the same problems.
I really want to see how this plays out though, because it seem to me that they have the hindsight in their favor, yet it can't be that simple.
Er. . . I'm sorry if I sounded in anyway rude in that last comment. I was just voicing (writing? o.O) out my thoughts on Elizabeth's feelings in Weir and what could come from that and speculating on what can possibly happen to them next.
Really, I love this fic, it's fantastic, and I'm sad that I found out about it so late, because I feel sad that there are only two more chapters.
Seriously, this is one of the most power pieces of fiction that I've ever read.
No one else knew what it was like and trying to explain something like the terrible, tangerine-fire beauty of the Wraith bombardment lighting up the city's shield or the thrill of piloting a dogfight through the corona of a sun, or making love in a field on Athos
See, this is beautiful prose. It keeps creeping up on me and attacking me with images as I read, which is stunning and mesmerising at the same time.
I like the indefinable sense of loss and longing in this .. sort of a hiraedd for a time and a place and an emotional depth.
Aw. See that makes us both happy and all shucks, 'tweren't nuthin', ma'am. Siege III is a favorite of mine just for the gorgeous visuals of the Wraith bombardment. It's such a pretty show, even aside from the actors.
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*cheers them all on*
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But
She stared at the blank expanse. Nothing. That's what they'd left for Elizabeth. Nothing.
*meep*
That doesn't bode well especially when John admits that he doesn't think he can trust her.
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Well, remember, this Weir has to know that this Sheppard is no real fan of hers anyway -- she pulled a lot of strings to basically force him into agreeing to join the expedition. So any new hostility isn't going to wound her the way it would have Elizabeth.
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And because of those memories...if she does isolate herself (aside: and it seems to be following the same track as in the alternate timeline. Just how much of the downloaded memories is inherent personality traits or the sum of their experiences?) what's to stop her from slipping again?
The only difference I can see here is Sumner.
Well, that and that there's only two parts left and it seems late for another timeline of doooooom. ;)
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It's, so sad that they live on in the alternate versions of themselves, but trying to identify and lot let the memories consume them must be tough. John remembers but doesn't want it. Rodney seems to want it, though, and that must hurt, to remember what it felt like to love and be loved by this man, yet for it to be the same man only different must be so painful.
*sighs* Man, just, poor guys.
And Weir doesn't trust them to make the same mistakes, mistakes that they haven't even made yet.
Hmmmm.
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I do also realize that she is justified in this worry, because, as you said, she wants to take care of everyone and protect them.
It's tragedy, really, because it seems that all there actions lead them back to the same problems.
I really want to see how this plays out though, because it seem to me that they have the hindsight in their favor, yet it can't be that simple.
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Really, I love this fic, it's fantastic, and I'm sad that I found out about it so late, because I feel sad that there are only two more chapters.
Seriously, this is one of the most power pieces of fiction that I've ever read.
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See, this is beautiful prose. It keeps creeping up on me and attacking me with images as I read, which is stunning and mesmerising at the same time.
I like the indefinable sense of loss and longing in this .. sort of a hiraedd for a time and a place and an emotional depth.
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