Political battles draw blood, but not always the right kind.

Feb 26, 2008 23:16

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That's so not on. Not only does it mock Obama, it mocks all the people who believe in him. Ultimately, the people who change the world don't do it alone; they do it by rallying the masses, getting them to do the dirty work. There's lots of dirty work to be done, and I'm willing to do some of it ( Read more... )

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bethbethbeth February 27 2008, 08:12:53 UTC
Did you embed the video? I only see 20% of them...and this wasn't one of the 20% so, um, could you let me know what the direct link is?

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aliciamasters February 28 2008, 11:48:11 UTC
Sorry! Of course, I can't find the same video, but I found this one, which is a little bit longer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwRnELfu1Ak

I was also looking for more of the rally itself, which is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED7ixr_0w30

That gives a little more about her positions and strengths. While I certainly now feel that I've made my choice, I may need to cast a vote for either, so I have to be ready. After all, Obama wasn't even on my primary ballot, and my vote doesn't count, since I'm from Michigan. (Not that I think it should: when your choices are Hillary Clinton, Undetermined, and Dennis Kucinich, it's a pretty skewed ballot. Plus, most of the people I know didn't bother to vote in the primary, since we were informed it wouldn't count.)

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cordelia_v February 27 2008, 13:30:02 UTC
Different people hear it differently, I guess. I thought it was light-hearted (not really mean-spirited) and actually fairly on-target. Satire works when it takes a grain of truth and then blows that up to create humor, as this does here. Some of the quotes from Obama supporters (see the NY Times article on voters' statements in TX, from yesterday) have simply been unbelievably naive and vapid about what it would take to change the distribution of power and income in this nation, and she's picking up on statements like that ( ... )

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nofunk February 28 2008, 00:24:03 UTC
Different people hear it differently, I guess. I thought it was light-hearted (not really mean-spirited) and actually fairly on-target. Satire works when it takes a grain of truth and then blows that up to create humor, as this does here. Some of the quotes from Obama supporters (see the NY Times article on voters' statements in TX, from yesterday) have simply been unbelievably naive and vapid about what it would take to change the distribution of power and income in this nation, and she's picking up on statements like that.

I agree.

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aliciamasters February 28 2008, 12:18:06 UTC
I think this satire didn't work; that was my point. While it pleased the Hillary supporters she was speaking to, it insulted many of the other people who would need to vote for her in a general election. I think Obama's message that it will take WORK is really what's empowering people. They feel like they may need to make sacrifices, but they may be able to make a better world. It's a powerful message, and I don't think that's wrong. After all, FDR and JFK had the same message, and it brought us the New Deal, public works projects, new roads, the Peace Corps & a trip to the moon.

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aliciamasters February 28 2008, 12:04:02 UTC
I wouldn't say NEVER. Neither would Nancy Pelosi. I think that glass ceiling is shattered for good, and I think we'll still get to vote for a female candidate in our lifetimes ( ... )

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cluegirl February 27 2008, 14:41:54 UTC
I've been in Mr. Obama's camp for some weeks now. Mainly because, as the campaign has gone on, (and on, and on, and on,) Senator Clinton has become less and less distinguishable from Anne Coulter, in attitudes, behaviors, bearing, and tenor.

I don't want an Athena in the White House who's going to feel the need to out Old Boy the Old Boys, just to prove her right to be there. Integrity. That's what I want in the White House, and from what I'm seeing, Mr Obama is the only candidate who's got it.

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aliciamasters February 28 2008, 12:13:23 UTC
I have to agree about integrity. I think that what turned me off most about this was that it came so close to her "I'm proud to be in this campaign with Mr Obama" wrap up in the Texas debate. It really does seem like she's trying everything she can to win, and I have difficulty voting for someone who puts winning above being right ( ... )

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stickchick0513 February 27 2008, 17:16:32 UTC
I've been in Obama's corner for a while now too. I hear a lot of snarky comments about how he's not experienced enough and he isn't capable of doing well because of his lack of experience and I just think "Bush had lots of experience, look where that got us". And it's not that I dislike Hillary, but I like to hear something positive coming out of a candidate's mouth. I like to have hope, and Obama really does give me hope that if you're willing to work hard, things will get better. I want to believe that things will get better. I also watched the debate last night and it was really astounding how many times Hillary tried to take a jab at him while he was polite and respectful the whole time. It was kind of refreshing to see him treat her with respect during the debate when she was working her hardest to get a rise out of him.

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cordelia_v February 28 2008, 01:05:13 UTC
Bush had lots of experience, look where that got us"

Bush actually had very little experience in political office (if you mean the younger Bush), for a presidential candidate. He'd served as governor of TX for just over one term, when he began his Presidential campaign, and had never held elected office before that.

One person's "polite and respectful" is another person's chilly and aloof. I find his public persona rather unattractive. It's even possible to see him as being rather arrogant, since he thinks his lack of experience and accomplishments doesn't matter in a Presidential candidate.

Still, I'll be voting for him in November, no doubt. With enormous bitterness in my heart, but the hope that he proves me wrong about how experience and accomplishments should matter.

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stickchick0513 February 28 2008, 03:00:15 UTC
Clinton has only had one term of senate experience when she began to run for President. If it's voting for who has more experience, John McCain has more than anyone else, so why not just have everyone vote for him?

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aliciamasters February 28 2008, 12:33:49 UTC
One person's "polite and respectful" is another person's chilly and aloof.Very well put! I was wondering what you saw that you didn't like, and now I see it. You're such a spitfire, and so impassioned... I can really understand why you were so strongly in Hillary's corner. She appeals to both your great mind and your verve ( ... )

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