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delicious_irony September 14 2008, 01:36:33 UTC
Amen.

I'm trying to teach myself that the only things I need to atone for are things for which I am personally responsible through my own actions. Which is a hell of a lot easier to conceive of than to carry out.

Oh well.

Like I say; you can't help how you feel. Only what you do about it.

:P

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alias_sqbr September 15 2008, 03:24:40 UTC
Amen indeed :)

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when caring =/= sharing out_fox September 14 2008, 07:13:55 UTC
Very relevant about the distracted + depressed = inaction point.

Don't feel bad for feeling bad!Yeah, it's what you do in response to the bad feeling that matters. I think it's easier to remember in anti-racism if people have certain cultural meanings for shame, rather than neurotic guilt ( ... )

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Re: when caring =/= sharing out_fox September 14 2008, 07:24:43 UTC
Also, have you read much Fiona Nichols? Has some interesting journal articles about facilitating whiteness discussions as a still learning white person: how whites will want her to model the "right" response, rather than everyone taking responsibilty for their own POV.

Thought of her re:your femmeconne concerns. Because it's not like you need to have the answers or know everything - your role is more focussing others on thinking through the topic for themselves yes/no?

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Re: when caring =/= sharing alias_sqbr September 15 2008, 03:38:15 UTC
First: thankyou for mentioning Fiona Nicholls, she does sound good though unfortunately I can't find her via google. Did you maybe mispell her name?

I had a REALLY frustrating conversation yesterday with a pagan friend about the self-actualisation vs community responsibility thing wrt cultural appropriation of religious elements. I think focussing on the individual and our own experience/feelings/needs etc is a major problem with these issues, though coming from a white socialist background I can say with confidence that it's not the only problem, and fixing it won't stop people being defensively racist :/

your posts are really provacativeThat's cool, as long as it's the good, thought-provoking sort of provocative and you don't just want to slap me upside the head ( ... )

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Re: when caring =/= sharing out_fox September 15 2008, 09:00:20 UTC
I did mispell it *facepalm*. It's Nicholl, sorry.

Her Are you calling me racist teaching piece in the Whiteness Studies issue of Borderlands.

"A big challenge for me was learning and teaching how to disarticulate whiteness from a reductive kind of identity-politics, which in recent years has become the subject of endless polemics about ‘political correctness’. So rather than focusing on identity per se I had to keep bringing the focus to bear on the processesthrough which individuals identify with and invest in patriarchal white sovereignty (Moreton-Robinson, 2003b)."

The fangirls icon is from redscharlach c/ cross posting them in P&P coms.

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