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flake_sake December 19 2011, 20:52:46 UTC
I was pretty underwhelmed by both follow up books. Mainly because the worldbuilding did not really work and they always had to return to the arena scenario to get the story working again.

It was a bit of a pity, because I thought there were some great ideas, but it did not really grow into it's shoes.

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alexandral December 19 2011, 23:27:20 UTC
I agree.

You see, looking back, it seems that all the good ideas was actually the stuff that was "borrowed" from various sources. Collins managed to spoil the single good thing that was her own, the charcter of Katniss.

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geeklee December 20 2011, 03:03:41 UTC
I actually found it clever that they find themselves back in the arena. I actually thought they'd be in haymitch's shoes in catching fire at first.

But I agree the worldbuilding was very weak. Again, I really don't think Collins cared about Panem. Just her message.

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blueocean80 December 20 2011, 00:06:28 UTC
Oh man, I'm not up for a discussion that requires thinky thoughts and articulate answers. Not now anyway.

i didn't find Katniss particularly bad in Mockingjay. I mean, yes, she suffered from a meltdown or whatever you want to call it in the beginning of the book, but I guess it was understandable after what she went through. Was I annoyed at her? Every now and then yes, but I never particularly liked her character, not even in the first book. I was more annoyed at her indecisiveness re: Peeta vs Gale. Now, that was annoying imho.

If you want strong layered female characters, do read The Inheritancy Trilogy. It's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAZING!!! I've read all 3 books MULTIPLE times and every time, I swear, EVERY TIME, I fall in love with them a little bit harder and also? I notice more details and more awesomeness. There's no gender/race/[insert topic] fail in those books whatsoever. I LOOOOOVE that they tackle issues like biraciality in concrete ways and...there are awesome, awesome characters and the worldbuilding is incredible ( ... )

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kem_viva December 20 2011, 02:33:55 UTC
jumping in here (sorry alexandral)

I thought you meant that dragon book Inheritance trilogy at first, but those actually look really interesting so I might just check them out, thanks!

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geeklee December 20 2011, 03:00:13 UTC
I agree. The series looks really interesting!

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blueocean80 December 21 2011, 16:54:09 UTC
You're welcome! I was just spreading the love. :) I hope you like the books.

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kem_viva December 20 2011, 02:27:45 UTC
Totally agree with what your saying, I really disliked Mockingjay too but I think you should still finish it. I don't think its completely fair to critique a series unless you've read all of it (and it will give you a lot more arguing points :p ( ... )

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alexandral December 21 2011, 12:16:57 UTC
Absolutely agree with your every word. Personally I think it is more important to get all the points you mentioned right in the young adult book because there is more chance that the book will affect the minds of young adults who are still in formative stage.

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alexandral December 21 2011, 12:18:03 UTC
It gets much much worse. I really did like the first book, but now I am afraid the whole series are spoiled for me.

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mookiehyun December 20 2011, 03:23:55 UTC
I didn't get any better.... by the end of MockingJay, I pretty much lost all my initial goodwill of Hunger Game.

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alexandral December 21 2011, 12:18:37 UTC
I am almost at the end too, and as you - I think the trilogy overall doesn't get much good feelings from me.

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