SE - Character Insight from Others

Apr 06, 2009 22:57

Today, while talking with--okay, commenting with-- lykomancer, and I realized that I've gotten a few ideas about writing Stein from other people, in addition to my own ramblings here. Just thought I'd post them to clear my head and keep a good reference. Some of these have been posted as comments, others I've taken from fic. May be edited as more things come ( Read more... )

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hoshi_ryo April 8 2009, 04:49:27 UTC
There is mention -- I'll try to look it up for chapter/page/panel when I have time, if wanted -- that Stein was experimented upon by others while a teenager, which actually does support the theory that something went disastrously wrong.

Also, the screw has to be a legacy of that; no way that could be safely self-installed. (I speak here as somebody who is as familiar as possible with human anatomy without having had the privilege of dissecting a specimen...yet. Also as somebody with a neuroanatomy textbook opened to the correct pages in their lap.) Even with mirrors, he couldn't have gotten a reliably good angle to insert it without damaging the brain -- either the organ itself or its blood supply -- and neither strike me as something he would risk. (As for what would be at risk for damage: pretty much everything except the occipital lobe, cerebellum, and the brain stem. That is one big screw and I'm not sure it's entering far enough back to completely miss the frontal lobe ( ... )

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Just wandering through. lykomancer April 8 2009, 06:15:23 UTC
There is mention -- I'll try to look it up for chapter/page/panel when I have time, if wanted -- that Stein was experimented upon by others while a teenager...

There's a point in the fight with Medusa in which he says that, at one point in the past, a group of terrified doctors tried to analyze him and figure out why he was the way he was. They came to the conclusion that he must have been through some horrible experiences which scarred him emotionally and walked off "with the same smug expression as one who's solved the case in a detective novel."

Is that the scene you're thinking of?

In regards to the screw, have you heard of the case of Phineas Gage?Yes, the placements are different. Gage's pipe when up, not straight though the side. That's totally different types of damage, I know. But what I'm focusing on here is that the human head can apparently tolerate a hell of a lot of metal being rammed through it better than I'd have suspected ( ... )

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Re: Just wandering through. akameji April 8 2009, 06:29:32 UTC
There's a point in the fight with Medusa in which he says that, at one point in the past, a group of terrified doctors tried to analyze him and figure out why he was the way he was.

That's what I thought of when I read hoshi_ryo's comment. And that sounded more like psychologists than doctors.

On the other hand, the screw (and some of his scars), as hoshi_ryo points out, can't logically have been dealt with by Stein himself. Franken Fran, maybe...

And: Besides, if he was one for damaging his own brain...a little well-targeted damage would have permanently cured his tobacco cravings, and if he was willing to take those kinds of risks, I'd think he would have tried it.

That's an excellent point.

...my real question? When he turns it, why doesn't, uh, well... What's he turning it against? And how does it still turn-- shouldn't the scar tissue have made that fluid motion impossible?...I hadn't even considered that. And it makes clicking noises. There kind of has to be metal around the entrance and exit holes, which I guess we can't see because of his ( ... )

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Re: Just wandering through. hoshi_ryo April 8 2009, 18:58:48 UTC
Stein probably got passed to some biological psychologists, too -- the most scientific (and, if you have to get a shrink, what you want to be treated by) group are the cognitive-biological school, particularly since there's strong evidence that each can have an effect on the other.

Anyway: I am not providing links to where you can find pictures of the brain structures of the path that screw is following, because the best one I found is of an actual human brain, taken mid-dissection. I know some people do not find that in the best of taste. If you're like me and all it does it make you go 'Ooo!' check Wikipedia's pages on the diencephalon -- all of which is in that screw's path.

If you're not: damage to the region can do Fun Things to your endocrine system, your moods, and, incidentally, cause you to act like River Tam in Firefly. (This is, in fact, the region of the brain that had been altered in that character.) Oh, yes, and this is where -- structurally -- berzerkers get their berzerker rage from.

There's a very, very short ( ... )

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