voodoo zombies?

May 17, 2006 19:59

I just sent this out to the Austin List for Burning Flipside... what do y'all think ( Read more... )

vodou, voodoo, research, vodun, burn culture, burning flipside, voudou

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Since you asked for my input... heatherthegreat May 17 2006, 18:40:00 UTC
I like that you've put this together. I enjoy reading essays that take something nebulous and abstract and make it more concrete, more real. I think it's important for people to understand the background of something they are participating in so it will be more authentic (in this case, in motivation and in ritual). I think that your essay is well-written and well thought out; the information is concise and pertinent but it needs a little formatting, organization and perhaps some re-wording ( ... )

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Re: Since you asked for my input... aethyrflux May 17 2006, 19:18:11 UTC
i felt that direct questions would undesireably influence possible responses... I would prefer to share my perspective as an initial thesis and then synthesize new ideas from combinations with other perspectives which people are willing to share.

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ladyjaneinlace May 17 2006, 18:53:29 UTC
Hi there. I enjoyed reading your post, but an lj-cut would be a nice thing to add to a post of such length. It just makes things easier when scrolling through one's friends page. :)

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aethyrflux May 17 2006, 19:20:37 UTC
funny, I didn't think that it was that long when I posted it; but apparently, I was mistaken!

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lynnivere May 17 2006, 19:34:34 UTC
Well done!

Though I knew nothing about all this before reading your Post I must say I am well informed now. You outlined everything in a thoughtful and relatable manner. Very Nice.

BTW, I love the New Orleans Voodoo Tarot! =)

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aethyrflux May 19 2006, 08:44:39 UTC
i would love to read tarot with you... it provides such a rich languages of symbols with which to relate stories!

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lynnivere May 19 2006, 23:22:21 UTC
I'd absolutely love that too! Let's do it sometime, K!

Safe Journeys, Ranger.
*salutes*

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aethyrflux October 19 2007, 18:42:23 UTC
i am still looking forward to that tarot reading, whenever we are able to arrange a mutually agreeable time & place!

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aethyrflux May 19 2006, 08:45:46 UTC
thanks for reading... i am pleased that you appreciated it.

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temujin9 May 18 2006, 10:06:45 UTC
The thing about Zombie is that while it looks like a sacrafice, it isn't. It's punishment/judgement by the Bizonge (voodoo secret society), apon an extremely selfish and lazy member of the community. The punished must first be "sold to the society", which is apparently some form of trial-in-abentia.

If they are judged guilty, they are attacked indirectly with a coup poudre (powder spell) made of several toxic substances, which puts them in a narcotic and eventually fatal coma. They are dug up after they are buried, and given another potion; this contains Datura Stramonium (zombie cucumber), which is both an antidote for the neurotoxics in the poudre and a further mind-altering substance (it's also known as Jimson weed, in the US). They are then put to work in fields or other mindless work.

If you haven't read it, I've got a copy of Serpent and the Rainbow that describes this much better than I am. It's a great anthropological adventure story in Haiti, and explains the Papa Doc revolution much better than mainstream works.

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temujin9 May 18 2006, 10:08:58 UTC
Also, the concept of egregore sounds suspiciously like memetics . . .

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aethyrflux May 19 2006, 08:42:51 UTC
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" ...you evoked that quote playing on a tape loop in my head (although the content of the link relates more to the Voudou topic)

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aethyrflux May 19 2006, 08:39:30 UTC
although i wholeheartedly concur with Wade Davis's research, i was referring to the word "sacrifice" in a different context... rather than the vulgar sense of the term, which is often used to describe loss, death, or destruction... i simply meant to refer to a process, through which something can be made sacred, such as by inclusion in a ritual.

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