because i was thinking about it again...

Dec 27, 2003 08:02

x-posted from an entry in queenofhalves' journal, in a thread sparked by jessicamelusine:

we don't have to re-invent the wheel...

but do we need to refine our measurements (looking at stars with a microscope)?
and do we need more specialized tools (everything looks like a nail)?

my experience when i first picked up TES, was that of validation, ( Read more... )

polyamory, the ethical slut

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tacit December 27 2003, 18:32:41 UTC
"yes, i think that it was written in an extremely provocitive manner, and glosses over many of the finer aspects and subtleties of interpersonal relationships; but i think that it was written primarily to reclaim sexual freedom."

TES isn't really about polyamory, per se; it's about polysexuality, which is not quite the same thing. The reason it glosses over relationships is it's not really intended to address multiple ongoing romantic relationships.

If you have Usenet access, you might be interested to know that one of the co-authors, Janet Hardy (who writes under the name "Catherine Lizst"), is a frequent participant in the newsgroup soc.subculture.bondage-BDSM and makes occasional appearances on alt.polyamory as well.

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aethyrflux January 4 2004, 00:16:36 UTC
they may not have been written TES as a guide for how to manage multiple ongoing romantic relationships; but it's funnny how many times they refer to having multipartner agreements... admittedly, they also mention what a utopian dreams these things seem to be ( ... )

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buddhalotus January 19 2004, 10:26:00 UTC
Hmmmmm... I still think it is hard enough to deal with one person not being there for me all the time versus two....but if I think of it that way I guess I really don't have anyone there for me at all and there for I don't have anyone special in my life....but why do the feelings still come.....I'm always most alone when your gone and no one cares.........................bummer, don't be shocked when people do what they do. One os never enough....the soul asks for to much and there fore receives nothing at all and I will never know a warm heart again....what thin fuck ever...like I ever really cared if anyone loves me....shit I'm the fucking sun gone frozen solid.

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aethyrflux January 27 2004, 17:01:21 UTC
i firmly believe that further development of your own integrity will assist you in breaking out of that cycle of low self esteem, as we have talked about elsewhere...

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Re: 00goddess January 31 2004, 19:06:22 UTC
I still think it is hard enough to deal with one person not being there for me all the time

The only person who will ever, in the sense that you are indicating, 'be there' for you all the time is yourself. It's not realistic to expect that anyone else ever will. Other people will sometimes need to 'be there' for themselves, or for ohter loved ones, and that might mean not being immediately available for you. TES confronts this reality head on, while most monogamous paradigms avoid it or pretend that it doesn't exist.

the soul asks for to much and there fore receives nothing at all

Is the soul asking for too much? Or is it just asking for the wrong thing?

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Re: buddhalotus February 1 2004, 00:20:26 UTC
I don't consider myself monogamous or polyamorus....I can be either depending on my life and my lover/s. But it really doesn't matter...I don't trust anyone no matter what kind of romantic relationship I have with them. Please keep in mind i give everyone deserving of it a chance to gain my trust and i theirs. It's just me ( ... )

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buddhalotus February 3 2004, 05:32:56 UTC
I love you Shanta....(:
But you and half of the world already know that...tee-hee
Oh fudge it....I love everyone.

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