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aesmael

I should be asleep

Jan 12, 2008 05:52

I should be asleep. I should not be posting but not long ago I read something which has left me rather agitated and I need to scream somewhere. Here has been chosen.

First last night when I was similarly agitated. I was responding to
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what i think people think, autism, humanism, bigotry, outrage, things which make me sad, brought to you by the letter i

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coniferous_you January 11 2008, 20:46:26 UTC

So, I actually checked this link and all I can add is that it is funny to see the guys who show up on EVERY FEMINIST BLOG EVER and say "we're not all like that" when women complain about some particular man.

"We're not all like that." NO THAT'S NOT THE POINT

flynnacatri January 11 2008, 23:53:10 UTC

An irritating theme. The problem is, she's probably barely focussing on the 'autistic' bit...

farsideofewan January 12 2008, 11:26:07 UTC

I know Im being a pest but could you please put a cut on this its taking up a lot of space on my friend page

thanks
ewen

taraxoxo January 12 2008, 14:08:44 UTC

1) GID being in the DSM-IV is on the basis of transgenders being distressed and thus not fuctioning at normal levels. This impairment is of cause caused by society and not innate to tg's. However, in the world of curative medicine (which is out there to help people), anybody not functioning at their normal levels potentially has a problem - even if it is not an innate one (e.g. injury by external causes is listed on the ICD-10, the comprehensive list of diseases).
Therefore the logic mentioned in the post only shows ignorance to how the system worked.

2) Autism affects women too, we all know that. Some people who call themselves feminists are real heroes that contribute to where we are now, others who carry the same card are indeed quite as intolerant and mean-spirited as the 'conservatives' they so oppose.

aesmael January 12 2008, 14:17:57 UTC

What are you talking about?

taraxoxo January 16 2008, 12:03:49 UTC

Okay, maybe I made the point a bit too academic. The way the doctors see things is that, a condition can be classified as disease whenever they affect the ability of the person to live life, and it doesn't mean it is an innate illness. But that's just philosophical.

aesmael January 16 2008, 12:45:02 UTC

I'm sorry, I was not at all clear before. You're pretty far off topic and not in an interesting way. Your comments were irrelevant and did not show understanding of the topic under discussion, they were not "too academic". To dismiss something as "just philosophical" is particularly annoying. Philosophy is rather important, wouldn't you say?

If we were to be discussing the topic you are talking about, I might say that the problem is it seems to be classified indeed as an innate disorder when it ought not to be. People might seek counselling for distress caused by the general intolerance of our society or the specific intolerance of individuals, or if their particular dysphoria is so intense as to impair their functioning, but they should not be considered disordered simply because of who they are.

Other states of being have been in similar positions and are not now considered disorders - homosexuality, left-handedness, red hair. It is not an innate disorder of the functioning of our medical system.