SG-1: s01-03: The Enemy Within

Aug 23, 2013 23:29


Interesting. I coulda sworn Janet would be in this one. Oh well. Bad memory. *shrugs* I'm pretty sure she'll show up by "The Broca Divide."

Good episode though. Much better than I remembered. I think I might totally ship O'Neill/Kawalsky now. Poor guys. You can tell they were good friends while serving together. And Jack's as great as ever. Sticking ( Read more... )

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lc59 August 25 2013, 00:55:48 UTC
I was never that taken with this one...Kawalsky just leaves me cold. And I've never understood what the big problem was with "Emancipation". I thought the blue dress was gorgeous.

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aeryn_b August 25 2013, 02:05:38 UTC
Aw, I think it was really good. Jack has such caring and empathy for Kawalsky. You can tell that they're really good friends and what's happening to Kawalsky is just killing Jack on the inside.

Also, you get to see the loyalty that Jack and Hammond show for Teal'c and all the men and women in the Stargate program. It's a great beginning episode for showing the "SGC vs. everyone else" story thread.

As for the dress in "Emancipation," I just remember it being goofy looking for the setting. Not saying it didn't look great on Amanda, it just didn't seem Carter's style.

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lc59 August 25 2013, 14:39:44 UTC
"it just didn't seem Carter's style"
It wasn't meant to be her style. The entire situation she found herself in wasn't her style.

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aeryn_b August 25 2013, 15:47:51 UTC
"It wasn't meant to be her style."
I know, and that's why I thought it was goofy-looking rather than "gorgeous" as you said above. I guess the poofy, 80s-like shoulder pad things were also silly looking. *shrugs* I guess it's not important anymore.

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bkwurm1 August 25 2013, 14:18:43 UTC
I'm not so sure about the ten year timeline. Vala's trial on that planet she went to right after Qetesh was removed seems to say she was only free for about half that time.

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aeryn_b August 25 2013, 15:42:18 UTC
Just quickly rewatched the relevant scenes from "The Powers That Be." This is confusing. I guess the simplest answer is that the writers retconned Vala's story about being freed from Qetesh 10 years ago as she tells it in "Prometheus Unbound." She clearly says that she was freed from Qetesh 4 years ago in TPTB. *sigh* I'd like to believe both stories.

I could twist it around using a little physics maybe... Maybe a year on P8X-412 is longer than a standard year. So maybe 4 years corresponds to about 10 years or so... Daniel does mention that Abydos has a 36 hour day, and I believe an Abydonian year is little longer than an Earth year, that's why they go back to Abydos in "Secrets," the 9th episode of Season 2 instead of right at the beginning of Season 2, right? Or maybe Vala was freed from Qetesh 10 years before Season 8 and spent some time wandering around and finding her feet. Maybe it took 6 or 7 years of running from the victims of her thievery for her to realize she needed a safe haven and so she went to 412. Maybe they just ( ... )

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bkwurm1 August 25 2013, 19:12:31 UTC
No, I loved your post. I'm glad their is someone else out there trying to make sense of Vala's timeline. I like your idea about the year being longer on the planet and consider the flip side to that, her having been on a planet with much wuicker cycles. I agree that she might have been wandering around for awhile before she discovered that rock of a planet didn't know that Qetesh was dead. The last four years she points to on the scroll of charges could have just referred to the last time she'd been there and going back. Ten years likely was an exaggeration (10 is such a much round number and I think she'd issued that story before) but the real truth might have been that she lost track of time. I also tend to think she'd started her rep as a premire thief before Qetesh used her as a host.

Keep on pondering. I'm sure something will make sense.

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aeryn_b August 25 2013, 20:01:00 UTC
Whew. Glad you weren't annoyed by my over-analyzation. :) Yeah, I also get the feeling that 10 years was an estimation. I bet she could've been freed by the Tokra anywhere from 8 to 12 years prior to PU. And without reliable calenders from world to world, and taking into account that she probably wandered a lot, it's safe to assume that she could have lost track of the exact time ( ... )

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kehwie August 25 2013, 19:18:36 UTC
I really enjoyed this episode--again, more than I thought I would. I'm glad watching the early eps hasn't been as boring as I'd feared. I loved Kawalsky and his friendship with Jack (the two seemed to banter and play off each other well--I always enjoy that). His end was sad and tragic.

Also loved Jack standing up for Teal'c. And his "Permission to barge in, sir" when he crashed that meeting. :)

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aeryn_b August 25 2013, 20:11:21 UTC
Saving Jack's life automatically puts you on his Friends List. ;) But seriously, he is beyond loyal to his friends and teammates, and that is so attractive. *blushes* I think I'm starting to remember why I wasn't too fond of the early seasons. Jack was the main good guy. He did the brave stuff, the heroic stuff. When I was watching this the first time, it was between "The Quest" two-parter and I wanted to catch up on the show, much like Browder did, just not in the span of two weeks. O_O Daniel was my favorite character from the movie in 1994 and so I was watching with him in mind mostly. And I couldn't believe how childish, petulant, and stubborn he was.

Rewatching these is opening my eyes to how great Jack was as a character, and Sam and Teal'c as well. I really shouldn't have been so closed-minded before, but eh, what can you do. At least I'm giving them another shot now.

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