Comments | absenceofmind: sorry, politics. skip if you don't want to read.

absenceofmind

sorry, politics. skip if you don't want to read.

Oct 03, 2008 10:09

look, i'm not an obama fanatic. i'm definitely not a democratic fanatic. there probably isn't anyone on capitol hill or near it or even looking at it that is as socially liberal and fiscally conservative as i am ( Read more... )

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arboretum October 3 2008, 17:29:14 UTC

basically? agreed x 7zillion.

I'm so upset and appalled that people have been lauding her performance, as if she actually accomplished anything on that stage besides fail to wet her pants. (ok, she also wins at the who can wink conspiratorially at the camera more times contest -- wtf.)

how can we set the bar for so low? if we're judging potential vps (potential presidents, maybe, even) on cuteness and likeability (and I don't think she's cute or likeable, but I can see how a certain subset of america might) then my seven year-old niece is cuter than palin, and only marginally less well-informed.

absenceofmind October 3 2008, 17:31:15 UTC

when i listened to the reviews on her performance i felt i had stepped in some terrifying alternate universe where we no longer even wanted our politicians to be intelligent and in fact found intelligence in them slightly undesirable and condescending.

arboretum October 3 2008, 17:38:08 UTC

same

but the really scary thing is that it is not an alternate universe -- there is a certain subset of america (one which the republican party has been pandering to) that really doesn't want their politicians to be intelligent, because idk, I guess they do find it condescending

the thing is, if you find smart people that threatening, your solution should be to educate yourself, not drag the whole goddamn country down with you

absenceofmind October 3 2008, 18:00:41 UTC

look, i personally REALLY PRAY that whomever is in charge of our country is smarter than i am. because if they aren't, they have no business being anywhere NEAR a position of power. i grew up with bill clinton, so forgive me if i think you can be charming AND intelligent at the same time. (not that he was a flawless president or human being, but wow, what came after is sure making him look ever better.) but if i can only have one, give me intelligence.

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wishpaper October 3 2008, 17:34:18 UTC

Exactly.

absenceofmind October 3 2008, 17:46:04 UTC

fucking hell, man. times like this i totally understand pete's stance on the elections.

flowright October 3 2008, 17:38:47 UTC

It is frightening for European people like me to watch that train wreck of Palin. I watched SNL Tina Fey and stopped laughing when I realized she wasn't exagerating one bit by throwing "also" every other word in an imitation of Palin's typical answer.

I understand people who want to vote McCain even if I disagree with him but knowing she's a heart beat away from being in position of leading one of the most powerful country in the world while I'm not sure she can actually pinpoint her own country in a planisphere is somehow frustrating.

absenceofmind October 3 2008, 17:45:16 UTC

at least you ARE european. i mean, not that the EU isn't going to go through some fiscal and economic pain, because er, it probably is ^^;; but at least you're spared the shame and embarrassment of having people openly cheer for idiots. i mean, we've taken EIGHT FUCKING YEARS to get ONE out of the white house, and we're going to replace him with someone even WORSE?

sadly, i liked mccain a lot more BEFORE he started this campaign. he's really been forced to play rove's game, and that can only lower him in my eyes.

flowright October 3 2008, 17:55:46 UTC

What's annoying is how american election result will influence the rest of the world while the rest of the world can't vote.

we're going to replace him with someone even WORSE
I thought Bush was pretty high on the BS scale. Obviously I was wrong.

absenceofmind October 3 2008, 17:58:38 UTC

on a positive note, i was really pleased by biden's stance on darfur. because seriously, if you EVER wanted to justify intervention (and i'm of the mind that we usually do way more harm than good), genocide would be it.

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evaporate October 3 2008, 18:06:11 UTC

Yes! This, exactly.

absenceofmind October 3 2008, 18:10:25 UTC

i'm really glad you guys are agreeing with me--not surprised, just, like, i really fucking needed someone to say OH MY GOD YOU THINK SO TOO?

because there are just disturbing numbers of ppl who think she did WELL, and i want to scream at them, BY WHAT STANDARDS?

evaporate October 3 2008, 18:21:28 UTC

I am terrified that there appears to be a large fraction of the populace who seem to think that a coquettish giggle and blatantly scripted, irrelevant propaganda-talk are valid arguments in a vice presidential debate.

This election is so disheartening. Finally Bush is getting kicked out of the White House, and Americans apparently... want him back?

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Re: You are made of awesome absenceofmind October 3 2008, 18:37:07 UTC

d00d, no. i'm INHERENTLY suspicious of handsome charming people, and early on in the campaign, i actually thought about mccain even though i really can't back his stance on the war, and i really wish he hadn't gone with the rove strategy although i understand he felt it was his only shot to win, since obama nabbed a fair chunk of independents / moderates. but as empty as his rhetoric occasionally is, and despite my conviction that he really will disappoint ppl who think he's a messiah, i at least do agree with some of his social and definitely his international policies, even if i have no fucking clue how he plans to fund the domestic side of the equation. and let's face it, the republicans have done a shit job of keeping government small and the market free, so i'm pretty much never going to get my fiscal conservatism either way. look at the state of our deficit now ( ... )