Also, this is the very first comment I've posted to LJ since the redesign. Allow me to be the first to complain at how much I loathe it and want the old style back. Cut out this wannabe-Tumblr bullcrap, LJ!
I meant Calendar Man's appearance; the profile, IIRC, was rather unremarkable. I can't even remember a single word of it - probably just the regular BS about "HE'S HOMICIDAL OBSESSED WITH HOLIDAYS OOOOOO~"
But the costume redesign they gave him, I REALLY liked. Not too silly, not too wannabe Lecter.
I haven't seen how Catman was utilized in that era, but he definitely has the potential to be a good character. (Except for the whole, "I will kill endangered animals and wear a costume made of stolen sacred tribal artifacts!" creepiness. Has anyone ever dealt with that?) I've mostly just seen him done really crappily in fanfiction; You Know Who thinks he starts at Meltzer. (The Simone "makeover" is an insult to Catwoman's sensibilities.) And in one of her spinoff series, for some reason he's a silent movie villain who legitimately twirls his moustache. Which is not as awesome as it sounds.
Oh, Selina. I misread her brother's name as Kart Kyle, and now he looks like Mario in my head.
This is from around the same era that Man-Bat came around because he injected himself with a "Bat-Gland" formula. No, seriously, the Who's Who file for him calls it "Bat-Gland." I blame the Stan Lee School of Scientific Theory.
(Except for the whole, "I will kill endangered animals and wear a costume made of stolen sacred tribal artifacts!" creepiness. Has anyone ever dealt with that?)
No clue! It occurs to me that I've never actually read a classic Cat-Man story, nor the grim 'n gritty reboot version in "Heat," a story by Moench from the early 90's in Legends of the Dark Knight.
You Know Who thinks he starts at Meltzer.
............ She... she can't be real, can she? She's a troll, right? An AI specifically programmed for trolling and bad, ignorant fanfic. She has to be.
Oh, Selina. I misread her brother's name as Kart Kyle, and now he looks like Mario in my head.
The only thing he ever stole... *puts on sunglasses*... was first place!
"Really, I have to wonder if this is the Catwoman that certain fans claim to miss when they disparage the Post-Crisis Catwoman of Frank Miller onward."
I never could get into that series, either. I did recently try to read that Scarecrow 3-parter.
I do love the Catwoman of pre-Crisis Earth-1-the one in the profile by Brent Anderson, who wasn't an airline stewardess, and who was written by Conway and Moench in the 80's. I never connected to the Year One origin (or any of Frank Miller's work) so I think of that Catwoman as a completely different character. She's never really interested me. I understand that people feel very passionately about that character and it doesn't bother me. They have every right to. I also love the Monkees and don't particularly care about the Beatles. It's all about what you connect to, at the end of the day.
When I saw BATMAN RETURNS in 1992, I was like, this back story makes sense for the woman I grew up reading; that my mother told me stories about even before I could read. She just grabbed my heart.
I know that will never cross over to the comics though, and I've accepted it.
The Scarecrow one is one of the better stories, mainly since Devin Grayson was one of the better writers. Plus, final series writer Bronwyn Carlton actually used dangling threads from it in her little-loved-but-not-bad last storyline, showing that even Selina's most seemingly badass, reckless actions had long-standing consequences.
She's never really interested me. I understand that people feel very passionately about that character and it doesn't bother me.
I felt the same way, but Henchgirl's timeline won me over. Did you get a chance to check that out yet?
You might be the only person I know besides Henchgirl to love the Batman Returns origin. I'm hoping that she will eventually write an essay explaining why she loves the film, and why it's seemingly universally-misunderstood.
Hasn't Blockbuster been around since the Silver Age and not the Bronze Age? I remember it began with a cool splash page with the words: "HATE BATMAN! FIND BATMAN! KILL BATMAN!" on it, accompanied by appropriate facial expressions from Blockbuster himself.
Oh right, I suppose he WOULD be more from the late Silver Age, in the "New Look" era. His story had Infantino art, I recall, but it looked like later in the run. I can't remember for sure.
Yeah, he's from '65, so about a year into Carmine's run.
Tungsten, the story you're thinking of is 'The Blockbuster Breaks Loose!' from DETECTIVE COMICS # 349. It's reprinted in the BATMAN IN THE SIXTIES trade paperback which is a great thing to have on your bookshelf.
i... man. couldn't she have just been catwoman cuz she was a cat burglar? i... fuck. just fuck.
there's a lot of stuff in comics that makes a lot of people shake their heads, so me calling this clown shoes could easily, easily get turned back on me for any of the number of asinine things that happen in comics that i love, but this is just stupid.
What's really funny about all this is that we're talking about eras in comics where villains didn't get (or necessarily even NEED) motivations. Shit, Poison Ivy STILL doesn't have one! Maybe the reason they didn't bother was because they'd usually come up with something preposterous like Catwoman's. But then, maybe they had to go with amnesia because, like, no way she could ever be a forgivable villain if she was ever in any way responsible for her actions!
Blah, I need bed. Stop responding to comments, self. Sleep.
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Also, this is the very first comment I've posted to LJ since the redesign. Allow me to be the first to complain at how much I loathe it and want the old style back. Cut out this wannabe-Tumblr bullcrap, LJ!
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But the costume redesign they gave him, I REALLY liked. Not too silly, not too wannabe Lecter.
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I haven't seen how Catman was utilized in that era, but he definitely has the potential to be a good character. (Except for the whole, "I will kill endangered animals and wear a costume made of stolen sacred tribal artifacts!" creepiness. Has anyone ever dealt with that?) I've mostly just seen him done really crappily in fanfiction; You Know Who thinks he starts at Meltzer. (The Simone "makeover" is an insult to Catwoman's sensibilities.) And in one of her spinoff series, for some reason he's a silent movie villain who legitimately twirls his moustache. Which is not as awesome as it sounds.
Oh, Selina. I misread her brother's name as Kart Kyle, and now he looks like Mario in my head.
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(Except for the whole, "I will kill endangered animals and wear a costume made of stolen sacred tribal artifacts!" creepiness. Has anyone ever dealt with that?)
No clue! It occurs to me that I've never actually read a classic Cat-Man story, nor the grim 'n gritty reboot version in "Heat," a story by Moench from the early 90's in Legends of the Dark Knight.
You Know Who thinks he starts at Meltzer.
............ She... she can't be real, can she? She's a troll, right? An AI specifically programmed for trolling and bad, ignorant fanfic. She has to be.
Oh, Selina. I misread her brother's name as Kart Kyle, and now he looks like Mario in my head.
The only thing he ever stole... *puts on sunglasses*... was first place!
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Yes, it is.
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I do love the Catwoman of pre-Crisis Earth-1-the one in the profile by Brent Anderson, who wasn't an airline stewardess, and who was written by Conway and Moench in the 80's. I never connected to the Year One origin (or any of Frank Miller's work) so I think of that Catwoman as a completely different character. She's never really interested me. I understand that people feel very passionately about that character and it doesn't bother me. They have every right to. I also love the Monkees and don't particularly care about the Beatles. It's all about what you connect to, at the end of the day.
When I saw BATMAN RETURNS in 1992, I was like, this back story makes sense for the woman I grew up reading; that my mother told me stories about even before I could read. She just grabbed my heart.
I know that will never cross over to the comics though, and I've accepted it.
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She's never really interested me. I understand that people feel very passionately about that character and it doesn't bother me.
I felt the same way, but Henchgirl's timeline won me over. Did you get a chance to check that out yet?
You might be the only person I know besides Henchgirl to love the Batman Returns origin. I'm hoping that she will eventually write an essay explaining why she loves the film, and why it's seemingly universally-misunderstood.
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Tungsten, the story you're thinking of is 'The Blockbuster Breaks Loose!' from DETECTIVE COMICS # 349. It's reprinted in the BATMAN IN THE SIXTIES trade paperback which is a great thing to have on your bookshelf.
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i... man. couldn't she have just been catwoman cuz she was a cat burglar? i... fuck. just fuck.
there's a lot of stuff in comics that makes a lot of people shake their heads, so me calling this clown shoes could easily, easily get turned back on me for any of the number of asinine things that happen in comics that i love, but this is just stupid.
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Blah, I need bed. Stop responding to comments, self. Sleep.
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