The art of argument.

[sunovermountain]

I was reading another community when it occured to me I haven't had to really think about a response to pro-life arguments in a long time. The arguments about abortion I see always follow down one of a very few paths, and are easy to predict. If you've had one argument about abortion, you've had them all, it seems. I'm willing to bet pro-life

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[jakshadows]

I'd love to contribute, but I think the hardest part is that it seems most people are already convinced of the rightness of their cause. In my case, I'm willing to listen (hell, I might even agree to some of the points) but there's not much that could sway me to the opposition's point of view.

[aequanoctis]

yeah pretty much that.

[cutout18]

I don't even think it's that, man. I can know that it's probably not gonna change my mind and still desire fresh ideas, just for the fact that it helps to further define my own. It's more aggressive than that in most cases

[srslysarahcee]

An extremely interesting article that I think people should read is here:

The Only Moral Abortion is MY Abortion
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

[montereybayjane]

I work in abortion care as well (as the OP) and though I don't keep statistics, it's safe to say the vast majority of my patients are anti-abortion. All day I hear "Well I don't agree with abortion," or "I don't think abortion is okay, I don't think you should be allowed to 'just have one.'" because the abortion the patient I'm seeing is okay, her situation is different, where as all the other women are whores that walk around with their labia hanging out who are perfectly set up to care for children, they simply will not.

[absinthecity]

that's a really interesting point, and yes, it is good to hear an alternative to the standard arguments.

To me, this is the flipside of another argument: 'I'm fine with abortion but not if it's for me'. That claim has always got my back up for all sorts of reasons, including the fact that I know that many people who once said that go on to have abortions when they find themself in that situation. Which I think sort of proves your point.

[snackbreak]

I'm pro-life and yes, I feel the same exact way.
I'm so sick of the same tired arguments I could vomit. I mean that in a real-life-friends kind of way, not an online way, because generally people on places like this one have heard/said the most common stuff already and are mostly talking about "this article says xyz" or "hey, new development here," which is actually interesting.

It doesn't matter if a woman calls an embryo a baby or what sanctity she places on developing human life. Women will have abortions anyway, because other aspects of their life are more important to them.I believe it, but I also believe people are hypocrites. I mean, I think most people would also say they'd never steal or shoot someone in the face, but all it takes is a few changes in circumstances and they'd sell out grandma if it suited them. Doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be legal though (or illegal, for that matter) - I really think that these kinds of things just prove that a lot of (if not all) people will revert to baser instincts when it

[sunovermountain]

I think that among the openly religious patients there is a pervasive attitude of, "I'll do this and ask forgiveness from God afterward." They see abortion and it's ending of a developing life as important, but not so important that they can't be forgiven based on their circumstances. In effect, they have already forgiven themselves by the time they come to my office because they see themselves as deserving forgivness (this is just my conjecture).

But I think most of these religious patients feel the need for forgivness just as much as they feel entitelment to it. I think that's because, really, it's all about desire. The more common situations that my patients describe as putting them in the "I have to have an abortion because..." mindset are things that a person could overcome if they had the strong desire to. If you don't have that desire, though, the sacrifices you'd make in carrying to term just aren't worth it... other things are more important to you

[darthslacker]

There are a lot of people comfortable with being hypocrites-as long as it doesn't become public knowledge. I see it in numerous aspects of life, not just relating the abortion debate.