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Apr 04, 2011 22:10

Okay, so you know how with every single ship in fandom, each comes with its own set of ridiculous fanons that show up over and over and over again, be it in fanfic or fanart or wherever? You have to admit after a while it gets a little silly after a while, and the presence of one or two of these cliches can render an otherwise decent fic... ( Read more... )

fma, silliness, aamalie is a major dork, roy/riza

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likeadeuce April 5 2011, 03:14:05 UTC
People call her "plain"? *cries* And she's even pretty femme by the internal standards w/in the manga. . .

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aamalie April 5 2011, 03:26:08 UTC
ALL. THE TIME.

I just don't understand it at all, because um, on top of being super smart and a crack shot, excuse you but RIZA HAWKEYE IS A HOTTIE WITH A BODY. (That's what Roy said.)

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likeadeuce April 5 2011, 03:29:52 UTC
Like I can see maybe if that's her self-image when she's a kid? But otherwise, please.

(Can I also complain about stories where Roy doesn't NOTICE she's hot until she takes off her uniform and then suddenly her tough exterior melts and she's soft and feminine and then he's into it? Because NO.)

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aamalie April 5 2011, 03:40:56 UTC
Yes, given her childhood, I can see that as a plausible possibility, but once she grows up a bit? Hahaha, nope, not buying it.

(And yes, yes you may complain about it because ew ew EW. As far as I'm concerned, aside from the blatant characterization fail there (Roy is totally aware, thanks), there is so much grossness with regards to ideas about women in male-dominated professions and their femininity going on in that particular trope that I can't even.)

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starzki April 5 2011, 03:26:05 UTC
Hmm. The fic I have in my head that's Royai (I'm sure I'll write it some day) only has one square! The endlessly drawn out UST, natch.

Honestly, some of those look painful to have to read, though I know I've read one (Riza pregnant) that sounded horrible but was utterly fantastic. I guess it's how good the writer is rather than if it's a common trope.

Nice list here.

*whispers* What's up with the beef stew. I have no memory of this in canon. */whispers*

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aamalie April 5 2011, 03:34:11 UTC
The fic I have in my head that's Royai (I'm sure I'll write it some day)

<3______<3 CAN THAT DAY BE SOMEDAY SOON? PRETTY PLEEEEEASE?

The endlessly drawn out UST, natch.

Haha well the endlessly drawn out UST is pretty canon... except that so often in fic it is less organic and SUPER CONTRIVED. So by the time you get a payoff you're just like, really? Did you really have to take THAT LONG FOR THAT?

I guess it's how good the writer is rather than if it's a common trope.

Indeed! Cliches are not inherently bad (though some are worse than others, but usually for reasons outside of just being common).

As for the beef stew... I HAVE BEEN WONDERING THIS FOREVER?! I am kind of guessing it is fanon that sprung from some popular fic at some point, but honestly that's just a guess.

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starzki April 5 2011, 03:41:18 UTC
Oh, good. I thought I had missed something in canon, and I thought I really did pay attention when Roy and Hawkeye were being featured.

As for it being some day soon... we'll see. I'm not feeling optimistic about it, but it's there and really cemented in full story form. If I've learned nothing about me and fanfiction, I know that if I have a full story in my head, it's coming out. I just have to get up the nerve to go back to writing, especially a pairing I've never done.

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aamalie April 5 2011, 03:48:21 UTC
Yeah, as far as I can tell, it's definitely fanon, pure and simple.

And ahh, new fandom jitters, those I can understand. Well, no rush! Just know that I will be awaiting with eyes like silly cartoon hearts whenever it does come. ;)

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himhilien April 5 2011, 03:46:33 UTC
I don't read Roy/Riza although it's my OTP in the series, but I'm not surprised with any of these cliches. Well, except for the plain or tomboy one. WHAT THE FUCK?

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aamalie April 5 2011, 03:54:25 UTC
Well you are probably wiser than I, the reader of everything ridiculous that purports itself to be about Roy and Riza. (The list of fic I would actually recommend someone? INFINITELY SMALL. BECAUSE I AM A PICKY JERK.)

And omg, you have no idea. Even authors I would normally trust fall into this trap! I JUST... DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY. EXCEPT MAYBE: "NO."

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bay115 April 5 2011, 04:02:15 UTC
LOL, I'm guilty of a few of them, although one of them is moreso crack (the Roy is a womanizer one). Could be fun to try writing some of them and get a bingo, haha.

I too am skeptical over the "references beef stew" and "Riza is called plain or described as a tomboy." Don't think I heard of those cliches before. ._.

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aamalie April 5 2011, 04:32:50 UTC
lolol, I am both amused and TERRIFIED by the idea of people looking at this and trying to get a bingo. (And hahaha, crack I can deal with, but URGH WHEN IT IS IN EARNEST.)

I generally find the beef stew thing a lot more on ff.net. It's more just a side-detail that gets mentioned as ~Roy's favorite food~ or something, but it reoccurs enough to make me WTF. As for the plain/tomboy thing, it shows less frequently, but trust me, I've seen it more than a handful of times.

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empath_eia April 5 2011, 04:25:30 UTC
I should make one of these for some D.Gray-man ships (Kanda/Allen especially, ffffff GODDAMNIT FANDOM).

If I ever write Royai for whatever reason, though, I will come back and find this. XD

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aamalie April 5 2011, 04:38:01 UTC
I am of the opinion every major ship needs these, because really, GODDAMNIT FANDOM INDEED. It seems to be a(n unfortunate) trend.

FYI, My face at the idea of you writing Roy/Riza: ♥______♥

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empath_eia April 5 2011, 04:42:05 UTC
I'm actually searching for fanart on a pairing right now and to a one they all have the dynamic completely, indisputably wrong. They are all out of character in a really obvious way, all because they can't get it through their heads that taller and ~stoic~ =/= top in bed. It's driving me crazy. STOP READING THE SERIES WITH YOUR BUTTS, FANARTISTS. :|

Anyway. I will save this comment in my fic folder and if I ever get into a writing mood I will see what happens. ♥

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