Stardust and Privilege: This is not the Loncon you were looking for

Mar 03, 2014 00:01

(trigger warning -- talk about harassment, bullying, sexual assault, PTSD, and other such things ( Read more... )

hugo awards, internet fail, privilege, twitter fail, cons, sf/f

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x_los March 4 2014, 00:20:58 UTC
Heya, I thought this post was really thoughtful, but just to let you know, I think you might have some coding errors at a few points?

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a_d_medievalist March 4 2014, 01:08:11 UTC
thanks! Stupid LJ's auto-formatting's attempts to 'fix' an incorrect tag...

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x_los March 4 2014, 02:26:36 UTC
Haven't we all faced that great evil? x_x

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lollardfish March 4 2014, 02:38:24 UTC
Yes, well said.

I wish I could arrange to introduce you to my friends (especially my fiddler) at the con, but they will be insane helping Seanan stay sane.

I hope you enjoy it and find it a safe space.

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taldragon March 4 2014, 10:40:17 UTC
if you're @lollardfish on Twitter, i saw your brief conversation with Mr Ross about witchhunts etc and thought you made very good points. even if he wasnt listening.

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a_d_medievalist March 4 2014, 11:07:04 UTC
He is -- Lollardfish, medievalist and RL friend, meet taldragon, enabler of my geekery and RL friend.

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taldragon March 4 2014, 11:15:28 UTC
"taldragon, enabler of my geekery "

i resemble that remark!

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ahistoricality March 4 2014, 02:45:50 UTC
Lovely use of "Stardust", too.

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a_d_medievalist March 4 2014, 11:07:32 UTC
Thank you. :-)

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la_marquise_de_ March 4 2014, 11:43:17 UTC
I do know the chairs, as it happens (one of them is a dear friend) and, while I don't know details, I'm pretty sure that they weren't influenced by the fame factor over much. I also don't think that the gender of the big name was a factor here in the sense of how much influence.
I suspect we will never know exactly what happened, but, while I was personally uncomfortable with the announcement, I do believe that they acted for what they considered good reasons which were not to do with the fame of either Mr Ross or Mr Gaiman, seriously.

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a_d_medievalist March 4 2014, 12:47:58 UTC
That's nice to know. I used the word Stardust instead of fame deliberately, though, because I think there is a difference. Fame seems to me to be less personalised, while Stardust is a sort of glamour that affects different people differently. Fame, and celebrity, seem crass reasons for smart people to do things. But glamours... people don't even realise they are there. In that sense, I think privilege in general is a variant of Stardust, if you see what I mean.

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la_marquise_de_ March 4 2014, 14:16:21 UTC
I do that's a good analogy, in fact.

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a_d_medievalist March 4 2014, 14:25:47 UTC
*beams* thank you. That means a lot.

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shermarama March 4 2014, 19:53:44 UTC
Aha. I've been reading about bits of this as it went along but not closely enough to really get the bigger picture; thanks for this.

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