Chapter 30 - The White Tomb

Sep 18, 2005 09:04

Classes and examinations have been canceled. Students are being whisked away from Hogwarts by frightened parents. Ministry officials are staying at Hogwarts. Everyone is waiting for Dumbledore's funeral.

Harry spends his time with Ron, Hermione and Ginny, repeating his horcrux mantra, the locket...the cup...the snake...something of Gryffindor's or ( Read more... )

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trash_addict September 19 2005, 08:07:50 UTC
Ooh, i got my chapters mixed up. This is the bit where i bawled over the trio love.

Ginny gave up pretty easily, didn't she? Incredibly lame scene. Fan-fic-ish.

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troubleinchina September 19 2005, 09:39:51 UTC
Nah. All the Harry/Ginny fanfic I've read is better done, at least in the romance department. *grin*

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cadesama September 21 2005, 04:22:36 UTC
Fanfic has the advantage of actually being about relationships, most of the time, which does lead to much better romances (of all ships). Although, I can't say I've seen many fics that actually have any break ups in them. I almost think that all of the folks who were busily saying that shipping would never be the point of HP, so it would be written shallowly, are right . . . except that JKR apparently decided that the shallow writing should take up about half of one book.

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trash_addict September 21 2005, 10:02:36 UTC
Well, if she can't write it well, she shouldn't put it in there at all.

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cheeringcharm September 19 2005, 21:18:48 UTC
At least JKR is consistent: the writing is just as weak in this chapter as it has been throughout the book. The dialogue was just atrocious, especially Harry's break up with Ginny ( ... )

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cadesama September 20 2005, 06:54:22 UTC
So, JKR didn't want Cuaron to have a graveyard in the PoA movie...why? Because she was going to write about it? I thought it was a little weird that this phantom graveyard hadn't been mentioned in five books. I was rather looking forward to what she might come up with, to be honest. Call me crazy, but a random white tomb sitting out by the lake was quite a let down.

I think it's more that having a graveyard around would imply that other Headmasters and Headmistresses had been buried at Hogwarts, which makes Dumbledore less special isn't what she was going for.

Draco was fascinated with the Dark Arts? Where in the last 6 books has she illustrated that?

Well, I think that his interest in Borgin and Burke's shop illustrates a degree of it, as well as a familiarity -- of course, Harry was fairly interested, too. Really, I think it's a transference of Harry's opinion of Snape, melded with Sirius's old comments about Snape.

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pilly2009 September 21 2005, 00:06:47 UTC
Well, I think that his interest in Borgin and Burke's shop illustrates a degree of it, as well as a familiarity -- of course, Harry was fairly interested, too. Really, I think it's a transference of Harry's opinion of Snape, melded with Sirius's old comments about Snape.

I think she was probably trying to strengthen the Harry/Draco vs. James/Snape parallel in a somewhat sloppy way; isn't a very similar line used to describe James's relationship with Snape somewhere in the books? Of course, we know that Draco is (was?) interested in the Dark Arts, but this has never been a reason that Harry hated him; they were enemies long before Harry knew much about Lucius Malfoy.

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at the end of the day woman_ironing September 19 2005, 22:39:18 UTC
So, HBP. Disappointment all round then, or what?

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Re: at the end of the day cheeringcharm September 19 2005, 23:36:10 UTC
I'm going to start a post to allow everyone to give their reviews in a couple of days.

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Re: at the end of the day madderbrad September 20 2005, 08:08:10 UTC
Ah, excellent! I was hoping someone would do that. Maybe we can all post our predictions as to the plot of book #7, would that be allowed also?

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madderbrad September 20 2005, 10:22:04 UTC
It's just that I was right about Eileen Prince once owning the book. You see ... she was Snape's mother!

(A) Cheering Charm is spot on when she calls Hermione 'insufferable' for doing the smarty-pants act here. And (B) - who the hell cares?. Sorry, but this whole running around in circles trying to identify the "Half Blood Prince" for most of the entire length of the book just left me totally cold. Did it have any direct influence on any other plot?

Like everyone else here (I think!) the nadir of the chapter would have to be the H/G 'breakup'. It read to me like a cliched, trite passage taken out of a cheap romance novel. Or maybe true romance is just way above my head. The "hard, blazing look" (trademark Ginny Weasley) mystifies me. Maybe appropriate for a big breakup scene, but the original use, coming back to the clubhouse after having won a - gee whiz! - game of quidditch? "You've been too busy saving the wizarding world". Oh dear. I must have missed all that world-saving that Harry performed in this novel.

"And if I ( ... )

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pilly2009 September 21 2005, 00:01:04 UTC
"hard, blazing look" (trademark Ginny Weasley)

I want an icon of this so badly...=p

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cadesama September 21 2005, 04:19:30 UTC
(A) Cheering Charm is spot on when she calls Hermione 'insufferable' for doing the smarty-pants act here. And (B) - who the hell cares?. Sorry, but this whole running around in circles trying to identify the "Half Blood Prince" for most of the entire length of the book just left me totally cold. Did it have any direct influence on any other plot?

::snicker:: At least it's consistent! Hermione did the exact same thing at the end of PoA, with her whole "I was right, the broom did come from Sirius!" schtick -- completely ignoring the fact that her entire argument was based around the idea that the broom was intended to kill Harry. Without that premise, her conclusion is pretty meaningless. It demonstrates the difference between her and Ron, too. He easily could have crowed that he was right, that Crookshanks wasn trying to kill Scabbers -- but he isn't so obsessed with taking every tiny victory he can get that he has nitpick about the details he was right about in his fatally flawed theory.

Good ending right at the end, with the ( ... )

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madderbrad September 21 2005, 04:38:38 UTC
At least it's consistent!

Gak! I'll have to re-read that bit from PoA. Nuts. So there *was* some common element shared between pre-HBP Hermione and HBP!Hermione after all?! Why did you have to come along and spoil my 'every negative thing Hermione did in HBP is inconsistent with her characterisation in the earlier books' thread like that? Was she that obnoxious in PoA too?

... the books over, so the slate is wiped clean?

I think that's the plan. We ignore the entire R/Hr mess, believe that Ron is the man for Hermione (because JKR says so, if you can't see it in the book) and the stage is set - however we got there, don't you worry about that - for book #7.

Bad taste indeed.

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