The cool Building is Dallas (as opposed to OKC) :-) That big ball at the top is a revolving restaurant. I had lunch there today, oddly enough! I wanted to show Rory :-)
these pictures are great! you should have gone to the Oklahoma City National Memorial. it's amazing. absolutely breath taking. your mom is awesome!!! hahaha. that IS big fucking chair! haha. post the rest soon =)
The Airplaned2a0v0i5dSeptember 30 2005, 23:29:09 UTC
Aryn, hon...
Those aren't "white supremacy symbols" at all, at least they weren't in 1918. That's the Maltese Cross, used on World War I German aircraft. The design comes from the Knights of Malta, way back in the time of the Crusades.
And that plane? It's not a Nazi. Nazism didn't come around until 1923, 5 years after this particular plane crashed. At about 11:30 AM, on Sunday, April 21, 1918, on the banks of the River Somme, in Western France. With a dead pilot, killed by a single bullet through both lungs and his heart.
It's the most famous airplane in history. The Red Baron's Fokker Dr.1 triplane.
Re: The Airplane_paixamour_September 30 2005, 23:36:11 UTC
That's still a white supremacy symbol though. Now it was, period. I had this conversation about the American Choppers iron cross thing once in my journal. It went into a huge debate, and that was fucking stupid.
It always makes me cringe seeing the American Chopper symbol, because it was and is still a white supremacy symbol. I know in the 60's they used it has the surfer cross or whatever......and I remember Mama telling me it used to piss off the WWII era people off.
So, at least I didn't get it completely wrong. That's still a white supremacy symbol. Might not have been then, it is now. Still disgusting in my eyes. *shrugs*
Re: The Airplaned2a0v0i5dOctober 1 2005, 03:48:43 UTC
To me, "historical context at the time of creation" is the significant consideration. If I see a swastika on a Grecian urn in a museum, I can understand that this particular decoration predates the Hitler era by thousands of years.
However, I couldn't see it used in a post-1945 artwork without considering the Nazi aspects.
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LOL, my Mama kicks so much ass.
The rest will be posted at least in a few days.
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Those aren't "white supremacy symbols" at all, at least they weren't in 1918. That's the Maltese Cross, used on World War I German aircraft. The design comes from the Knights of Malta, way back in the time of the Crusades.
And that plane? It's not a Nazi. Nazism didn't come around until 1923, 5 years after this particular plane crashed. At about 11:30 AM, on Sunday, April 21, 1918, on the banks of the River Somme, in Western France. With a dead pilot, killed by a single bullet through both lungs and his heart.
It's the most famous airplane in history. The Red Baron's Fokker Dr.1 triplane.
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It always makes me cringe seeing the American Chopper symbol, because it was and is still a white supremacy symbol. I know in the 60's they used it has the surfer cross or whatever......and I remember Mama telling me it used to piss off the WWII era people off.
So, at least I didn't get it completely wrong. That's still a white supremacy symbol. Might not have been then, it is now. Still disgusting in my eyes. *shrugs*
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However, I couldn't see it used in a post-1945 artwork without considering the Nazi aspects.
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i want to sit on a BIG ASS chair too..
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