facts are facts. they dont have to die to come here.
they can come here legally via work visas as well as other alternatives but they refuse to because of the implications it has such as having to pay taxes. and actually I have lived in Mexico. for three months. and not in some white-out area. I lived in a town of total poverty and you know what. Even if we did take California, if they still had it, they would be sneaking out of it into other states so that is irrelevant.
They have the means to come legally and don't take it.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allgiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but
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totallyyy. can't you tell this guy just screaaams intelligence? his opinion is people who are against illegal immigration are nazis and since he has no better argument he picks on spelling. good god. if i were to do some "ethnical" cleansing, it would be of ignorant asses such as these who let MTV tell them how they should vote and have no substance to their arguments.
AND WHAT BETTER ARE YOU THAN ME? CALLING ME A "PUSSY ASS BITCH" OR "A DUMB DYKE." GOOD GOD! IS THAT SUBSTANCE TO YOUR ARGUMENT? AND YOU HAVE ALSO ASSUMED THROUGH OUT THIS WHOLE ENTIRE 'CONVERSATION'
I have assumed nothing. I use name calling as an expression of emotion because people like yourself who lend to intelligent thought to their opinion, solely emotion should be deported along with the rest of the illegal immigrants.
ACTUALLY, NAME CALLING ISN'T REALLY AN EMOTION. YOU JUST NAME-CALL BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY, BESIDES FACTS YOU'VE REPEATED, OVER AND OVER. DON'T CALL ME IGNORANT WHEN YOU'RE USING "DUMB DYKE" AS AN INSULT, HOMOPHOBIC!
first of all. i am not a homophobe. but again, nice assumption. and yes, name-calling stems from an emotion and you are saying if have nothing else to say except for my FACTS. well i have yet to see any facts from you supporting the illegal immigrants being here. just how hard it is for them to get here legally which you probably haven't experienced like i have. oh and that 300 of them died crossing but again, they dont need to do that. they can come legally :]
Benefits from immigration include increases in economic welfare, increase in cultural diversity, and increases in the standard of living of immigrants.
1. Gains in economic welfare. We argued earlier that a 10 percent rise in immigration lowers native wages by up to 1 percent, or possibly $44 billion per year. However, these wage reductions don't just disappear. To the extent that immigrants provide low-cost labor, either more income accrues to the employers, or cost reductions are passed on to the consumer. Therefore, the host economy benefits by an equal amount that native workers lose from the cheap labor of the immigrants. In other words, the $44 billion is simply redistributed to other people in the economy, and the net effect washes out. But the gains from the low wages go beyond the $44 billion from lower wages. The goods produced by immigrant workers also generate additional profits for employers because they are able to sell more of their products at the lower price. Borjas estimates this gain
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well at least this guy can copy and paste correctly.
As for point number one, the surplus of funds the employer doesnt have to pay due to illegal labor goes to his pocket. like i have explained elsewhere, this draws a further line between high and middle/low class. the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Cultural diversity is great but we could attain that with legal immigration and it does not benefit the economy at all to make up for the decrease that the illegal immigration causes. And as that bullet says, it leads to more crimes etc. And yes we realize that their living standards approve but so would mine if i stole a bunch of really nice stuff. they need to learn to attain a better standard of living legally. period. thats what this is about. im not denying that they get better living situations here or that only white people and white culture should be here, it just needs to be done legallyyyy.
YOU SAID WE LOSE A LOT OF MONEY, AT FIRST. NOW YOU ARE CHANGING YOUR MIND. I THINK YOU NEED TO REALIZE, WE DON'T LOSE LOTS OF MONEY. AND WHETHER THEY COME HERE, (LEGAL OR NOT), THEY DESERVE TO BE HERE. MORE SO THAN MOST AMERICANS. GOOD DEBATE. PEACE, LOVE, AND EQUALITY, JORDAN.
dude, i'm thinking you're the racist around here hating americans. hate against any race is in fact racism. and all the things you've said are making me think you're an american hater. if you hate americans so much, get the fuck out of this country.
hey look, i found these facts on the internet. -people who post anonymous suckk diiick. -"anonymous" calls jordan a homophobe cause illigals are gay & he doesnt like them. la la laa.
NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR FACTS, CAN YOU ATLEAST ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG? OR ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT KEEPS FIGHTING FOR A LOST CAUSE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR PRIDE?
well since your second point said itself that it was cancelled out. and i agree with the third point but it needs to be attained legally. and the first point is incorrect because the excess in income is not redistributed evenly, it just further separates the classes. and copying and pasting does not make you any less ignorant. you need to learn what you are arguing for, not just copy what others have learned. so are you going to keep fighting for a lost cause or toss in the towel?
facts are facts. they dont have to die to come here.
they can come here legally via work visas as well as other alternatives but they refuse to because of the implications it has such as having to pay taxes. and actually I have lived in Mexico. for three months. and not in some white-out area. I lived in a town of total poverty and you know what. Even if we did take California, if they still had it, they would be sneaking out of it into other states so that is irrelevant.
They have the means to come legally and don't take it.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allgiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but ( ... )
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Benefits from immigration include increases in economic welfare, increase in cultural diversity, and increases in the standard of living of immigrants.
1. Gains in economic welfare. We argued earlier that a 10 percent rise in immigration lowers native wages by up to 1 percent, or possibly $44 billion per year. However, these wage reductions don't just disappear. To the extent that immigrants provide low-cost labor, either more income accrues to the employers, or cost reductions are passed on to the consumer. Therefore, the host economy benefits by an equal amount that native workers lose from the cheap labor of the immigrants. In other words, the $44 billion is simply redistributed to other people in the economy, and the net effect washes out. But the gains from the low wages go beyond the $44 billion from lower wages. The goods produced by immigrant workers also generate additional profits for employers because they are able to sell more of their products at the lower price. Borjas estimates this gain ( ... )
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As for point number one, the surplus of funds the employer doesnt have to pay due to illegal labor goes to his pocket. like i have explained elsewhere, this draws a further line between high and middle/low class. the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Cultural diversity is great but we could attain that with legal immigration and it does not benefit the economy at all to make up for the decrease that the illegal immigration causes. And as that bullet says, it leads to more crimes etc. And yes we realize that their living standards approve but so would mine if i stole a bunch of really nice stuff. they need to learn to attain a better standard of living legally. period. thats what this is about. im not denying that they get better living situations here or that only white people and white culture should be here, it just needs to be done legallyyyy.
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-people who post anonymous suckk diiick.
-"anonymous" calls jordan a homophobe cause illigals are gay & he doesnt like them. la la laa.
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