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Apr 28, 2009 12:54

With due respect to Rabbis Yisroel Friedman and A. Chefetz, learned as they may be (I've never heard of them personally, but they may well be very learned) I wish to take issue with some of the points made in their article about the use of a motorized scooter for the Sabbath (presumably for use by those incapable of walking).  This scooter ( Read more... )

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cellio April 29 2009, 01:13:03 UTC
Thank you for this interesting analysis.

How does the "can't use chol objects on Shabbat" argument handle grama kitchen appliances like ovens with Shabbat mode? It's not like a siddur where I can use a different one on Shabbat. :-)

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zevabe April 29 2009, 18:24:48 UTC
Uvda d'chol (the issue cellio is addressing) is not something I can really claim to understand. I have not heard anyone define what sorts of objects are subject to this and which are not.

On a side note, Shabbat mode ovens are a misnomer. They are Yom Tov mode ovens. Using them on Shabbat encounters other issues. They are also the subject of controversy, mostly because A) grama by design may not be grama and B) there is no obvious medical need as here (as you can see the scooter is controversial. How much moreso the oven?)

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