Comments | zerozero: beginner in 3D

zerozero

beginner in 3D

Aug 28, 2002 11:45

Asking around for feedback on this picture (because even thought it’s just a learning sketch I’d like to get it right) and all I’ve got from RL people is “the leaning tower of middle earth” and “it’s a bit phallic isn’t it?”.

So I thought I’d try here - any constructive criticism most gratefully received.
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dj_alexander August 28 2002, 04:10:33 UTC

Not too shabby.

The tower is leaning too far back, it's at the wrong angle, assuming that we're approximately eye level with the base.

zerozero August 28 2002, 04:16:32 UTC

you are right by george, but I think I'll lower the viewing level rather than adjust the tower.

This entry was supposed to be posted in the graphics forum but ended in my personal lj somehow, a mistake I will recify post haste.

chiller August 28 2002, 04:34:15 UTC

Yeah, what Alexander said is exactly right. But if the perspective is fixed, it'll be a very good picture!

guilty... kixie August 28 2002, 05:26:10 UTC

I thought the 'leaning ghost tower of middle earth' myself - or pretty much along those lines.

Am not fond of 3D usually, it has to be quite carefully and skillfully done - however, reading Alexander's comments he's pretty much spot on.

Post the final result when it's finished, I'm curious to see.

Re: guilty... dj_alexander August 28 2002, 05:35:06 UTC

Yeah, the shadows on the tower don't look right... too faded, but if you assume that it's far in the background, the distance hidden by the hill in the foreground, rather than on the actual hill, then it's OK. If ya see what I mean.

Re: guilty... kixie August 28 2002, 05:52:58 UTC

*nods*

The tower seems illusory, almost.

Thar be beasties there!

Re: guilty... zerozero August 28 2002, 05:59:47 UTC

The faded shadow is supposed to be an effect of fog/haze - which would be more apparent if the top of the hill was also foggy - but that’s one of the things that I can’t work out how to do. I thought I might get away with it - but since both you and some bloke in the graphics forum have both pointed it out - apparently not.

One of the good things about 3d shit like this is it’s easily changed. This is also one of the bad things.

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courtneythegirl August 28 2002, 07:36:10 UTC

because of the excess "fog" on the tower, and none on the hill... i think it throws the whole tower thing off. It makes the tower look to be the size of a lego tower on just one hill. but if you fix the shading on the hill... it will be better. To me, it looked like just one hill in the foreground.. but after squinting my eyes, i could tell it was several (or one really ripply hill). Perhaps just fix the shading on the foreground hills... and the tower could almost fix itself. It would look like it's on a hill further back instead of so close to the front of the picture. At the moment it looks like a little tower on a big hill. And as mentioned above... the fog needs some work. lol

I hope that helps. And I hope it makes sense. It's my bedtime now.

*courtneythegirl*

courtneythegirl August 28 2002, 07:38:03 UTC

p.s. you did a better job than I could have.

*applauds you*

-courtneythegirl-

zerozero August 29 2002, 06:06:27 UTC

danke!

Re: zerozero August 28 2002, 08:09:39 UTC

it is supposed to be on the foreground hill - i'm hoping the fog will "meld" the two things together... we will see.

tvor August 28 2002, 09:05:19 UTC

It looks like the tower is leaning away from the viewer, as if it's going to fall "backwards", and it doesn't look like it's sitting on the hill, it looks like th ehill is hiding the base of the tower. And it feels like the hill is too close to the viewer, as if i'm crouching in a ditch or something. I like the fog around the tower and in the background, it's sort of mystical looking.

bohofaery August 28 2002, 14:44:18 UTC

The middle-earth association did leap to mind, but then I'm nearing the end of Book IV right now, so the imagery is rather more fresh than usual. And if the tower was more visible it may well be obvious that the architectural style is entirely wrong - from what I can make out, it seems vaguely eastern.

I like the foreground hills just the way they are. The only weak point in the image is the tower, about which enough has been said - but I think introducing more fog onto the central hill would wash out the image and eliminate its strong point. Instead, I'd recommend making the tower more visible. But then I have no idea how one does these things, so it could well be I'm talking nonsense.

(By the way, whilst at Reading I was startled to notice all the lads spontaneously calling me 'H' even though I'd been introduced as Helen. Is this a bloke thing, or does your influence stretch even further than I thought?)

zerozero August 29 2002, 06:05:46 UTC

Knowing how much you don’t like landscapes I was surprised to see you comment - although this effort hardly counts as a landscape except in the strictest definition.

Point taken - the relationship between the tower and the hill is the problem - I could hide the botched relationship with more fog but I think I’ll rethink the whole thing: I’m not as sick of it as I was when I posted it.

Re: my sphere of influence - my minions are everywhere, world domination can’t be far off.