This was why I didn't raise the Caroline-is-anti-Damon argument because that is a fact and it's well justified and I've explored it often enough!
What I mostly disapprove of is how she's shoving Stefan at Elena and says, "you're soulmates, you have to be together".
I have no explanation for this, honestly, because there IS no explanation for this; it's what I was trying to say, that it's inbuilt in the premise of the show, it has to be the Salvatores. I rage against it often and I am constantly annoyed with the ~triangle business, and this sire-bond business is ALSO because they want more triangle leverage, but since it's the premise, I have to accept it. Which means that I have to accept everything that comes with it; which is, that if not Stefan, it HAS to be Damon; there's no logic to it, but it's constantly what is held by the show. Caroline will never be allowed to go 'hey let's ditch them both' (and in fact she has talked about ditching Stefan too; Caroline was the first person to tell Elena to move on from Stefan in Season 3 and that she couldn't live out her life like this, which is why this recent position is both a retcon and terrible.) And it's kind of impossible to judge how much Caroline knows Stefan is capable of; whether she knows about Wickery Bridge or the time he was basically willing to let Jeremy die; and that, despite the 'Ripper' stuff, Stefan is still considered 'acceptable' (not only by Caroline, but Bonnie too, who hugged him while crying, which, what even show) because he feels ~guilty, because he doesn't want to, which makes him Good, regardless of what he does. Not to mention Elena with Stefan is Good (she wouldn't enjoy feeding etc.) Honestly, I'm not saying it's right (I've been waiting for Elena to massacre villages since the first day), but it makes sense, considering this IS the morality that the show has expounded since three seasons. Why Elena herself always felt that loving Stefan was 'right' and often said so.
And I don't know, I'm reading the Klaus situation in a different way. In my opinion, it doesn't make Caroline hypocritical, instead, it makes the actions of her friends inexplicable. I mean why isn't anyone doing the same for Caroline; why isn't anyone going HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE STANDING NEXT TO/FAKE DATING/REAL DATING THAT TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE, SUPER-POWERFUL GUY WHO KILLS WHENEVER HE FEELS LIKE IT. Instead they blithely make use of her whenever they want to 'distract' Klaus, and put her in danger each time. Also, I'm guessing the difference is that Caroline doesn't love/like/have feelings for Klaus; she minorly enjoys his attention, but that's about it. (She also HAS repeatedly told him to stay away and never sought him out unless forced to because of some plan). Which is why she never interfered when Elena felt the same about Damon, when it was just physical attraction. But now that it's MORE, it's problematic.
I agree with everything you said, especially how it makes not much sense for Caroline's friends to not object to the way she's putting herself in danger by fake-dating someone who has shown in the past that he has no qualms of killing anyone who crosses him.
But beside the fact that I think that Caroline using Klaus's attraction for her to distract him is a monumentally bad idea and will likely not end well for anyone, I can see why she's doing it. I can also see why she'd be charmed by him and / or flattered by the attention he gives her. I understand why he makes her smile.
What I don't understand is how she can rant to him about Elena's choices. That's the point where I think she crossed a line. I mean, as someone who still ships Klaus/Elena to some degree, of course I enjoy seeing them in the same scene or hearing him comment on Elena's involvement with the Salvatore brothers, but from Caroline's POV, this makes no sense. Klaus has repeatedly threated, abused and at one time killed Elena. Caroline talking to him about Elena's relationship issues seems such a breach of trust, and it doesn't seem like the act of someone who's playing a person or who's grudgingly accepting their company.
You know that's a very, very good point, and I agree with that; that is a breach of trust, the closest I can come up with is that it was closest thought in her mind and Klaus had already heard everything and Caroline, unlike Elena and Bonnie, is ridiculously expressive, it's why she keeps thwarting Klaus and purposely saying things that could get her killed, because she basically says all the wrong things at all the wrong times ever-- and of course, the show needed a way to plant the whole sire-idea in Caroline's head via Klaus, so that rendered a discussion necessary; lol, this show.
YOUR KLAUS/ELENA SHIPPING IS A+++ SIR, every time they're in the frame together, I think of you :D
What I mostly disapprove of is how she's shoving Stefan at Elena and says, "you're soulmates, you have to be together".
I have no explanation for this, honestly, because there IS no explanation for this; it's what I was trying to say, that it's inbuilt in the premise of the show, it has to be the Salvatores. I rage against it often and I am constantly annoyed with the ~triangle business, and this sire-bond business is ALSO because they want more triangle leverage, but since it's the premise, I have to accept it. Which means that I have to accept everything that comes with it; which is, that if not Stefan, it HAS to be Damon; there's no logic to it, but it's constantly what is held by the show. Caroline will never be allowed to go 'hey let's ditch them both' (and in fact she has talked about ditching Stefan too; Caroline was the first person to tell Elena to move on from Stefan in Season 3 and that she couldn't live out her life like this, which is why this recent position is both a retcon and terrible.) And it's kind of impossible to judge how much Caroline knows Stefan is capable of; whether she knows about Wickery Bridge or the time he was basically willing to let Jeremy die; and that, despite the 'Ripper' stuff, Stefan is still considered 'acceptable' (not only by Caroline, but Bonnie too, who hugged him while crying, which, what even show) because he feels ~guilty, because he doesn't want to, which makes him Good, regardless of what he does. Not to mention Elena with Stefan is Good (she wouldn't enjoy feeding etc.) Honestly, I'm not saying it's right (I've been waiting for Elena to massacre villages since the first day), but it makes sense, considering this IS the morality that the show has expounded since three seasons. Why Elena herself always felt that loving Stefan was 'right' and often said so.
And I don't know, I'm reading the Klaus situation in a different way. In my opinion, it doesn't make Caroline hypocritical, instead, it makes the actions of her friends inexplicable. I mean why isn't anyone doing the same for Caroline; why isn't anyone going HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE STANDING NEXT TO/FAKE DATING/REAL DATING THAT TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE, SUPER-POWERFUL GUY WHO KILLS WHENEVER HE FEELS LIKE IT. Instead they blithely make use of her whenever they want to 'distract' Klaus, and put her in danger each time. Also, I'm guessing the difference is that Caroline doesn't love/like/have feelings for Klaus; she minorly enjoys his attention, but that's about it. (She also HAS repeatedly told him to stay away and never sought him out unless forced to because of some plan). Which is why she never interfered when Elena felt the same about Damon, when it was just physical attraction. But now that it's MORE, it's problematic.
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But beside the fact that I think that Caroline using Klaus's attraction for her to distract him is a monumentally bad idea and will likely not end well for anyone, I can see why she's doing it. I can also see why she'd be charmed by him and / or flattered by the attention he gives her. I understand why he makes her smile.
What I don't understand is how she can rant to him about Elena's choices. That's the point where I think she crossed a line. I mean, as someone who still ships Klaus/Elena to some degree, of course I enjoy seeing them in the same scene or hearing him comment on Elena's involvement with the Salvatore brothers, but from Caroline's POV, this makes no sense. Klaus has repeatedly threated, abused and at one time killed Elena. Caroline talking to him about Elena's relationship issues seems such a breach of trust, and it doesn't seem like the act of someone who's playing a person or who's grudgingly accepting their company.
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YOUR KLAUS/ELENA SHIPPING IS A+++ SIR, every time they're in the frame together, I think of you :D
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