This MIGHT have been something Nine would do, with massive emphasis on Might. But Ten? TEN? No. Effing. Way.
Actually, I'd be inclined to reverse that. Nine was the incarnation bearing the personal responsibility for what happened to Gallifrey and the Daleks, Nine was the one who was all brooding misery and guilt, who exploded in anger at the sight of a single captured Dalek. Ten has had a little more time, has gained something more in the way of distance and perspective.
Frankly, what hacked me off was the ridiculous abuse of science. Even if I was willing to swallow the rubbish about inserting DNA into brain-dead people somehow resurrecting them to think like the source of the DNA, DNA transmitted by lightning? Just how exactly does that work? Keep the science 'magical' for f's sake, because trying to base it on reality is just point and laugh territory.
Yeah, and if they'd included some hint at him thinking about that before hand then I might have bought it but it just switched too quickly, you know? There was absolutely no clue or reasoning to why he did it and I didn't feel that it made much sence for that particular moment. Maybe you are right about Nine, I was thinking it made more sense for Nine after, say, the Dalek episode. Him offering that then would have been just perfect. The mood would have been right. But this... there's just no reason given.
The science thing didn't bother me massivly, but I agree with you none the less. Either keep the science vaugly real or make it entirely fantasy. The part with the bunsen burners and the lab equipment was cool though, because that was entire bollox and yet was very Doctorish. But the Lightning thing was just silly, there must be a better way to do that. Invisable particles in the air or something? I dunno...
In fairness, as stupid as the DNA by lightning was, they did hint at this being a decision of his. Once he's lost the sonic screwdriver he stops, stares, then very deliberately climbs up onto the spire and puts himself in the way of the lightning. His behaviour is suggestive of a plan, albeit a completelyt daft plan. If he'd said 'essence' rather than DNA maybe, hinted at something,like the soul. That'd I'd have bought, and quite liked.
Yeah, I'll agree there. I don't mind a bit of daft science, I think what Tiggy was having problems with was the attempt to link it in with 'real science.' I didn't have too much of a problem with it myself. Just happily meh about it.
I know. I mean, I don't even mind so much that the Doctor walked there alone and unarmed because, heck, that's the sort of thing he'd do. But the fact the entire episode seemed to be about people (Solomon, Sec, ect) doing exactly what he was doing and getting exterminated for it... what was he thinking? There just didn't seem like any sort of build up to it, you know? So yeah, glad you agree.
The only slightly plausible (as in, not really at all) explanation I can think of is that he was hoping that maybe Caan could become like Sec. By that point he'd seen Sec's desperation to change and Caan was a Cult of Skaro Dalek too.
But yeah, that didn't sit right with me either, one of the things that fascinates me about Ten is how scary he is, the 'No second chances' and the genocide of the Racnoss being prime examples. He's not emotionally charged (like Nine in Dalek), he just presses the button without hesitation.
True, but he'd also seen what had happened to Sec; extermination. Khan had had every chance to reform, his leader had tried to help, Solomon had begged the Daleks but every time, and in short made no sense considering what had recentally happened.
I agree so much about the Ten thing. For me... Nine was all about guilt, about holding back, about hte feeling that he had failed his people. Ten seems to have gone the other way, Rose (or circumstances, or the regeneratrion or whatever,) seems to have pulled him the other way, from near impotence to over-reaching self-confidence. And I do like that, and I hope RTD plays with that a bit.
Possibly the only person who didn't have a problem with the last scene. I think it made a certain amount of sense. What has set this Doctor apart is his absolute certainty that he is right. It's why he's been willing to push that button so many times before. And Dalek Sek royally screwed with that. I'd still have prefered that this was played up slightly, or hope that reference to this is made later. I think it makes a certain amount of sense that the Doctor would be a bit more uncertain, humble, in this situation. I guess we'll se in the next few episodes whether I'm right though {shrugs}.
I'm definately looking forward to next week. Looks a lot like a regeneration :). And the set had a little bit of a Tardis feel.
I agree about he Doctor, and in another episode, with a different built up, then I would have happily bought that. The Sec thing is a good point if the other daleks hadn't, you know, SHOT HIM. And then with Solomon, who gave just as rousing a speech, and was shot. I don't know about you, but just from these two examples I'm noticing a pattern. I just felt there was no build up to it, and it made no sense given the situation.
I'm looking forward to the next ep too, if only because we should get to see more of Martha's family and hopefully get more of her backstory/personality which should be good. Hopefully I'll get to see it with you!! :D
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thank god someone thinks like me!
btw your avatar's pun is very very bad!
smacked bottom for you!!
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You know we think alike, babe!
And I actually liked the episode in general, thought it was good, but this scene annoys me a little.
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Actually, I'd be inclined to reverse that. Nine was the incarnation bearing the personal responsibility for what happened to Gallifrey and the Daleks, Nine was the one who was all brooding misery and guilt, who exploded in anger at the sight of a single captured Dalek. Ten has had a little more time, has gained something more in the way of distance and perspective.
Frankly, what hacked me off was the ridiculous abuse of science. Even if I was willing to swallow the rubbish about inserting DNA into brain-dead people somehow resurrecting them to think like the source of the DNA, DNA transmitted by lightning? Just how exactly does that work? Keep the science 'magical' for f's sake, because trying to base it on reality is just point and laugh territory.
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The science thing didn't bother me massivly, but I agree with you none the less. Either keep the science vaugly real or make it entirely fantasy. The part with the bunsen burners and the lab equipment was cool though, because that was entire bollox and yet was very Doctorish. But the Lightning thing was just silly, there must be a better way to do that. Invisable particles in the air or something? I dunno...
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The only slightly plausible (as in, not really at all) explanation I can think of is that he was hoping that maybe Caan could become like Sec. By that point he'd seen Sec's desperation to change and Caan was a Cult of Skaro Dalek too.
But yeah, that didn't sit right with me either, one of the things that fascinates me about Ten is how scary he is, the 'No second chances' and the genocide of the Racnoss being prime examples. He's not emotionally charged (like Nine in Dalek), he just presses the button without hesitation.
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I agree so much about the Ten thing. For me... Nine was all about guilt, about holding back, about hte feeling that he had failed his people. Ten seems to have gone the other way, Rose (or circumstances, or the regeneratrion or whatever,) seems to have pulled him the other way, from near impotence to over-reaching self-confidence. And I do like that, and I hope RTD plays with that a bit.
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I'm definately looking forward to next week. Looks a lot like a regeneration :). And the set had a little bit of a Tardis feel.
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I agree about he Doctor, and in another episode, with a different built up, then I would have happily bought that. The Sec thing is a good point if the other daleks hadn't, you know, SHOT HIM. And then with Solomon, who gave just as rousing a speech, and was shot. I don't know about you, but just from these two examples I'm noticing a pattern.
I just felt there was no build up to it, and it made no sense given the situation.
I'm looking forward to the next ep too, if only because we should get to see more of Martha's family and hopefully get more of her backstory/personality which should be good. Hopefully I'll get to see it with you!! :D
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