1x07: Ice

Jun 21, 2014 10:00

Our mini-rewatch begins! So, "Ice" has it all: sex, violence, black humor, bad science, plenty of opportunities for scenery chewing, and some of the tensest scenes between Mulder and Scully of the entire series ( Read more... )

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We are not who we are: Part 2 wendelah1 June 21 2014, 19:41:38 UTC
I always find the Scully/DiSilva exam scene to be the erotic highlight, but I know I'm in the minority there ( ... )

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estella_c June 21 2014, 21:53:10 UTC
You nurses just kill the fun for us English majors. No, not really, because we think of science as an extremely malleable plot device. Accuracy? C'mon.

Right, F. Huffington. One of the joys of X-Files rewatches is noticing all the stars who began as the little people on Fox.

Duchovny once called "Ice" "our first rockin' episode." Whatever he meant, it grabbed attention and was acted without restraint. Lots of yelling. Kind of hormonal teenage science nerd in its demeanor. I loved it. Moments of goosebumps for Fish: the mutual neck exam, of course, and also the moment in which Scully pulls the ammo out of her guns and flings it into the storm. She is very forthright, for a tiny doctor.

This ep emphasizes that Mulder and Scully are not quite there in terms of total trust. Also that, although Scully is right in her caution, Mulder is of course right in his conviction.

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wendelah1 June 21 2014, 22:28:09 UTC
Also that, although Scully is right in her caution, Mulder is of course right in his conviction.

He's right in so far as he didn't kill anyone. They jumped the gun on that one, definitely, but Mulder's over-reaction fueled that. Mulder had a gun and started after Hodge, who had no weapon, except his big mouth, of course.

Other than serving as a plot device to lock up Mulder, there is no reason Scully couldn't have examined him instead of Hodge

You nurses just kill the fun for us English majors.

Come on, it doesn't take anything but common sense to know that there is no natural passageway between the hypothalamus and the intestines.

Sorry, but I don't see simple facts as malleable. If something is patently ridiculous, turning it into fiction just makes for silliness. I give credit where I see it, in this case, to the writers for what they did do well and to the folks who took the script and turned it into something special despite its obvious flaws.

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badforthefish June 21 2014, 22:40:06 UTC
Come on, it doesn't take anything but common sense to know that there is no natural passageway between the hypothalamus and the intestines.

You mean "having shit for brains" is not a genuine medical condition? Consider me flumoxed.

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wendelah1 June 21 2014, 23:29:54 UTC
You mean "having shit for brains" is not a genuine medical condition?

LOL. I saw that and just split my tea everywhere. Excuse me while I find a mop.

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estella_c June 21 2014, 23:53:57 UTC
I'll buy that, but what wouldn't work in fiction--where one has time to think--and television--where one has been habituated not to--are not the same. It's a new kind of suspension of disbelief we viewers have developed in order not to go mad.

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wendelah1 June 22 2014, 01:09:29 UTC
It's a new kind of suspension of disbelief we viewers have developed in order not to go mad.

Hee. How's that working out?

Are there any limits to this suspension of disbelief? Any shows that are just too ridiculous?

They can slip a lot past an audience the first time around, but the plotholes look very obvious now, don't they? You're saying that TV wasn't designed to be analyzed like this. But I can't turn my mind on and off the way some people can. Maybe I don't watch enough TV?

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badforthefish June 22 2014, 09:11:24 UTC
Y'know the worm being found in stools didn't even register with me as being weird. Probably because the worm being lodged in the hypotalamus flew right over my head ( ... )

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estella_c June 22 2014, 13:53:26 UTC
Your insight is an excellent one. TV--partly due to cable and other forms of entertainment delivery, like Netflix--is enjoying a rise in quality. And I believe this is partly due to the outspokenness of us (fan)atics on line. Of course, most of the audience is still pretty unobservant, which might be traced to many of them working more hours than sleeping.

I think The X-Files was among the first wave of detail-oriented, rewatch-worthy series. But we are still early in the show, the staff is pressured and underpaid, and SF fans (like me) are habituated to not giving the science much credence.

Tech is moving faster than people can internalize.

All this reminds me of something OT. I was watching Fred Astaire in (I think) Swingtime with friends, and we laughed when Fred took a ride through the snow (in a sleigh?) and stood up with snow, or its movie equivalent, all over his rear end. Did not compute. And someone said, "Well, studios didn't know that people would be really watching this thing a century later." Fred, like the ( ... )

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badforthefish June 21 2014, 22:33:11 UTC
I always find the Scully/DiSilva exam scene to be the erotic highlight, but I know I'm in the minority there.

I found it hot too. Just forgot to mention it. I have had a Scully in a tank top fetish since that picture:

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wendelah1 June 21 2014, 23:50:02 UTC
His "my lame joke for my small penis" line doesn't really hold water after we all saw him in that Speedo.

He's not small. But I've seen a lot of penises in a flacid state and I recall his as pretty average, frankly.

But I am willing to be proved wrong. Pictures?

Hairy? He's not hairy. He's heavier than he was in his thirties but looks great for a guy in his fifties. He's not a kid anymore.


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melissaisdown June 22 2014, 00:52:57 UTC
Didn't DD pose for Playgirl a long time ago? I don't think you'd be proven wrong but...I forget how to embed pics into comments on here.

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wendelah1 June 22 2014, 00:58:30 UTC
Did he? Man. I missed out on all of the fun, entering the fandom so late in the game. To embed a comment, just hit the little box next to the arrow at the far right and follow the directions.

As I said above, I'd love to be proven wrong...

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estella_c June 22 2014, 14:35:56 UTC
I so hope not. But he'd probably have liked that.

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badforthefish June 22 2014, 09:29:13 UTC
You think the Speedo shot puts him in 'average'?


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estella_c June 22 2014, 13:56:01 UTC
They may have started to shave his chest. Pretty common.

I'm pretty sure that it was DD who made the "big boy" comment about Pileggi. Because he is.

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