SF Won The Culture Wars A Long Time Ago. Isn't It Time Fandom Started Acting Like It?

[wombat_socho]

"Let me take you back...back into time

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[wombat_socho]

Noted and corrected. Thank you!

[selenite]

I've been to cons in CA, GA, NY, WA, and various places in between. They were all more fun than the Worldcon I went to. At this point when I think of Worldcon and its attachments the Kirk quote comes to mind: "Let them die!"

[wombat_socho]

My experience has mostly been with conventions near DC and the Upper Midwest; I haven't been to any Worldcons since 1983. MidAmericon II (if I go) will be my first since Constellation, and I don't have high hopes for it.

I think the Hugos are still worth fighting for. WSFS, obviously, not so much.

[drplokta]

If you go to MidAmericon II, you will be WSFS, since WSFS is just the members of the Worldcon.

Eyewitness account

[ext_1114840]

Kudos, a brilliant article.

"This massive "No Award" result, which doubled the number of such from the last ten years, was loudly cheered and celebrated by those in attendance at the Hugo Award banquet; this cheering was encouraged by MC David Gerrold, while thousands of fans around the world were subjected to this display of vile behavior thanks to the Internet."

As one of the Sad Puppy nominees, I was there sitting in a front row throughout this debacle; trust me, it was worse in person.

Re: Eyewitness account

[wombat_socho]

Thank you. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be there in person, on the receiving end of the Two Minute Hate.

Re: Eyewitness account

[safewrite]

I was there, too, representing nominee Abyss & Apex. Not only was the ceremony brutal, but the reception beforehand was bad enough that Toni Weisskopf of Baen walked out, and Patrick Neilsen Hayden responded to an olive branch from John C. Wright's wife Jagi Lamplighter Wright with vile swearing.

Re: Eyewitness account

[wombat_socho]

Which Nielsen-Hayden's wife is now swearing up and down didn't happen. What a disgusting creature.

I'd heard about Toni's angry exit, and don't blame her in the least.

Holy Jesus Christ on a dinosaur!

[rottenshworz]

Now I know, how soviet cons of 1980-ies would look like if political comissars actually tried to lead them instead of just supressing!

Re: Holy Jesus Christ on a dinosaur!

[wombat_socho]

We seem to have raised our own generation of commissars, though fortunately they don't have the punitive powers of the old Soviet blue-tabs.

The Hugos and the Puppy controversy

[adriennef]

There is nothing like an anonymous person posting criticism about a controversy he doesn't fully understand

Re: The Hugos and the Puppy controversy

[adriennef]

I stand corrected. The author's name is Ken Trainor Jr.

Re: The Hugos and the Puppy controversy

[wombat_socho]

That's Kevin. Mr. Trainor if you're nasty.*

*Classical reference, as Moe Lane might say.

Re: The Hugos and the Puppy controversy

[wombat_socho]

I'm hardly anonymous. A few seconds worth of Internet detective work would reveal my actual name, but if you want to use that as a pretext to deprecate the entire essay, that's just fine with me