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nerthus April 24 2009, 03:07:38 UTC
I'm not sure how I'm feeling about John after this episode. 'Cause this means he Willingly left the boys (at rather young ages 14 and 10) alone to be with his 'other family'.

I think it was stated that John didn't even know Adam existed till Adam was 12; and based on the age difference between Adam and Sam and Dean, that would mean Sam was already at Stanford and Dean was a grown man when John first started spending time with Adam. I guess Adam's conception occurred during a hunt John was on when the boys WERE young still and left God knows where on their own, but I don't think John was sneaking off during their teen years to see his other kid, since he didn't even know about Adam till Sam and Dean were older.

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willow_fae_20 April 24 2009, 03:11:08 UTC
I think it was stated that John didn't even know Adam existed till Adam was 12; and based on the age difference between Adam and Sam and Dean, that would mean Sam was already at Stanford and Dean was a grown man when John first started spending time with Adam.

Okay, that makes me feel a little better, not much though. Because this:

Adam's conception occurred during a hunt John was on when the boys WERE young still and left God knows where on their own

still irks me.

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nerthus April 24 2009, 03:21:10 UTC
Yeah, that's always been a sore point with me, how he just left the boys alone so often. Even though he kept them with him ostensibly to keep them safe from the evil after their family, he just goes off and repeatedly expects a very young Dean to protect both himself and Sam, which is the most irresponsible, emotionally traumatic thing ever, sigh...I always wished there would be SOMETHING in canon to ameliorate that a bit, but I guess it's pretty much set in stone now that he left them alone a LOT as children.

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willow_fae_20 April 24 2009, 03:27:58 UTC
I think 'Something Wicked' and 'A Very Supernatural Christmas (the flash-backs)' definitely demonstrate that John left them alone to 'fend for themselves' on a semi-recurring basis. And I don't like it...

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nerthus April 24 2009, 03:34:39 UTC
I guess I relate to the young Sam and Dean too much just from a personal standpoint, sigh; my dad died when I was only 4 and my mom didn't handle it well and drank herself nearly senseless a lot of the time while my 11 yr old sis and 13 yr old brother were at school all day. Leaving ME, at age 4, to pretty much wander the house and neighborhood alone all day fending for myself. Then when my sibs got home, we oftn had no food in the house and they would take my red wagon and we'd go beg glass coke bottles off people (this was in the Dark Ages when cokes were in returnable bottles and aluminum Coke cans didn't exist yet!). We would then pull our wagon full of empties to the local grocery store and trade them in to the sympathetic manager for a loaf of bread and some bologna or p butter and some milk and we would eat that for days. So yeah, I really do feel my heart break for the boys, even if they ARE fictional, ha, because it rouses so many painful memories of my own childhood so long ago but still impacting my soul.

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willow_fae_20 April 24 2009, 03:40:41 UTC
I was fortunate in my family (the older I get the easier I find it is to admit that), I know I had both of my parents love, affection, and attention. Me and my sisters never wanted for anything. So while I can't say I see where the boys (or you) are coming from I can say that it's an unfair situation that no child (or person of any age) should have to deal with.

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