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meganlynn09 August 4 2008, 01:55:06 UTC
First, obviously, the fact that Rose didn't make the decision herself. Loathe that to a degree that is quite terrible.

Two, I hate how he cast off the clone version. That it was dangerous and while it should be his responsibility, he just doesn't want it and uses an opportunity that he discusses with no-one to pawn him off. It's ridiculous and insulting.

Three, when Rose questions what Ten was going to say on the beach originally, while I thought the "Does it really need saying?" delivery was really quite sweet, Rose turning to the clone and asking him what he has to say, felt wrong, and I feel like I should place most of the blame on RTD, making it seem like Rose is only searching for the "I love you" out of the relationship. But it's there and, IMHO, reflects horribly on Rose's character.

Four, I know it's weird that I place this separately, but I didn't care for her kissing the clone because he said it. Totally rubbed me the wrong way. Hated this more than #3. And really, they could have at least used a better angle. Like the confidential one I've seen around.

And five, that Ten leaves without goodbye, good luck or a screw you. Maybe he believes that she made her choice, but this Ten, what he decides, almost forces me to believe that he was never in love with her. I don't know if that's right. It just...he knows it was never her choice to leave him (as much as I'm bugged by that), to be so selfish in his wish for her to live a full life that he forces on her what he thinks she needs, that's not love for a person, IMO.

And to give her a human Doctor, assuming that that's what she always wanted, feels proof that he didn't really know her well because that was never the impression I got. She loved traveling with him and that was evident.

Um....that was more than I needed to say....that was all so repressed and I'm sorry it all spewed out on you! :)

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whywastewords August 4 2008, 02:32:29 UTC
I actually agree with every single point you've made. I suppose like you said, it's just funny how despite this, our reactions were so opposite.

Ten gave her the human Ten almost like a gift and that really weirded me out - even moreso because I feel that human Ten knew this and still happily went along with it. Human Ten IS Ten, just human, so why would he suddenly be so at ease with 'settling down' when it's been made clear that the very basis of the Doctor's character, even before her was the last Time Lord, is that he's a wanderer, a rebel.

The whole scene really does drag Rose's character down as you said, like all she ever wanted was to shape the Doctor to her liking and make him into a house husband. As you say, it was about the travelling first and foremost for her, and escaping her mundane life. I think she and Human Ten are both going to be very shocked at being stuck together, land locked on Earth, having to live a normal life with no running, explosions, alien planets and crises to distract them. I... y'know I just really don't get what RTD was thinking at all.

And I'm glad you wrote all that. You described my own feelings about the scene perfectly.

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meganlynn09 August 4 2008, 02:52:49 UTC
Heh, an almost thought twin :D

And I forgot that point about human!Ten. The idea of Ten doing this was because he couldn't "settle down" with her. And even though the human Ten was a rough copy of Nine, that wanderlust is there, no doubt. It's always been there, in all the Doctors. They always wondered about it, but they couldn't/wouldn't do it.

And without the supposed scene of the Doctor giving "10.5" a piece of the TARDIS to grow his own, it's hard to imagine what their future will be. Seems dark to me, so I supposed I'm glad there are those that are making it better with fic. :)

I wish RTD went into this with the thought of closure instead of thinking of an ending, which can be seen as two different things. There was no closure between Rose and Ten, just an abrupt ending. And that actually makes me sad.

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