Angel, has it not occurred to you that we don't want you to be a sole soldier going around doing what you think is right or you think we deserve?
Has it not occurred to you that we don't want one person deciding who should be held accountable for what?
When Silhouette attacked one of us for no reason you promoted her.
Look, this? Is me trying to give you some advice, if you want? This is me helping you to help us. We already have a voice, god knows we don't need anonymity to complain and it is impossible to have missed the things people were unhappy about. What we need is for the wardens to stop patronizing us by assuming that they know what's best, and listen!
And my god man, accept the possibility that you might be wrong for once in your life!
The Silhouette situation is none of anybody's business, Ethan, and since being told to follow my orders, she's done exactly that and hasn't stepped out of line once. I appreciate that no one likes that decision, but it's one they'll have to live with.
I'm used to working alone. It's been my experience that one person making the decisions gets things done, and more than two or three only muddies the waters. I've never been good at working with a large group, especially of people I don't like. That's... You're right. That's something I need to work on.
I'm just trying to give you a place to talk. You don't have to use it.
And I'm sorry I couldn't give you what you needed.
This isn't about Silhouette anymore, this is about you! She made a mistake and she obviously knows it, and then instead of discussing it with the other wardens and coming to some kind of penalty? You stepped up and gave her a new job!
If you don't want to work with this community? Then you have no right to dictate anything too it. We have a place to talk, we had a place to talk months ago when Sam set up a suggestion box, you're just taking a problem that you don't understand and trying to make it about you.
Don't worry about what I needed. What you thought I needed and what I think I need? They are not the same thing. Just on this issue though? I'll do you a favor and be polite about this:
Please, please, please stop telling people what will fix it and what they want and what they need and listen! There aren't many inmates in here who haven't been trying to tell you. Stop trying to assert your manly infallibility and putting them down, and just ask.
If the other wardens want to punish Silhouette, I won't stop them. I, however, am not going to punish someone who's already learned their lesson. Retributive justice in this environment won't do any good except to provide an example for others or make people feel better, neither of which are reasons I'm interested in.
It's not her we're upset with. She's apologized already, the problem is the way the rest of you acted after what she did. Instead of holding her responsible you circled the wagons and sent a message that you thought your own people were above ever being accountable for what you've done.
Good. Now take what you've learned, and go ask someone who won't just take the piss out of you.
I know you're not upset with her. I know you're angry at the rest of us. That certainly wasn't the message I intended to send, and my decision to put her on security had absolutely nothing to do with the Charlie and West incident. But it was badly timed.
For which I apologize, and for not doing more to stop that message from being sent.
Has it not occurred to you that we don't want one person deciding who should be held accountable for what?
When Silhouette attacked one of us for no reason you promoted her.
Look, this? Is me trying to give you some advice, if you want? This is me helping you to help us. We already have a voice, god knows we don't need anonymity to complain and it is impossible to have missed the things people were unhappy about. What we need is for the wardens to stop patronizing us by assuming that they know what's best, and listen!
And my god man, accept the possibility that you might be wrong for once in your life!
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I'm used to working alone. It's been my experience that one person making the decisions gets things done, and more than two or three only muddies the waters. I've never been good at working with a large group, especially of people I don't like. That's... You're right. That's something I need to work on.
I'm just trying to give you a place to talk. You don't have to use it.
And I'm sorry I couldn't give you what you needed.
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If you don't want to work with this community? Then you have no right to dictate anything too it. We have a place to talk, we had a place to talk months ago when Sam set up a suggestion box, you're just taking a problem that you don't understand and trying to make it about you.
Don't worry about what I needed. What you thought I needed and what I think I need? They are not the same thing. Just on this issue though? I'll do you a favor and be polite about this:
Please, please, please stop telling people what will fix it and what they want and what they need and listen! There aren't many inmates in here who haven't been trying to tell you. Stop trying to assert your manly infallibility and putting them down, and just ask.
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... Alright. I'm asking.
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Good. Now take what you've learned, and go ask someone who won't just take the piss out of you.
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For which I apologize, and for not doing more to stop that message from being sent.
Thanks, Ethan. And good luck.
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