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[websandwhiskers]

I have been watching Iron Man II absolutely obsessively, mostly because I'm too broke to go to theaters and watch 'Avengers' quite so obsessively.  Also I draw while watching at home, and that's hard to do in a dark theater.  I still want to see it one more time before it goes out of theaters, though.

You know what I didn't notice before watching

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[mhalachaiswords]

I watched Iron Man II for the first time after Avengers (I know, bad fan) but how I interpreted that was, Tony was *dying* and he gets thrown this huge emotional rush that contradicted his entire view of his father, and he was really just unable to deal with that. Then he found the world fair stuff and Science! which pushed a lot of the emotions back (which I think is how Tony is with a lot of stuff). Once the rush was over and the world was saved, I could see him trying more to repress it all rather than examine all his gushy feelings. But yeah a lifetime of feeling abandoned and ignored by your father could never be pushed away with thirty seconds of film.

And wasn't there a thing in Avengers where Steve was pushing Tony's buttons about Howard? Or is that a fan thing I'm misremembering?

[websandwhiskers]

Damn it, you make me want to go see the movie again to find out! There's that scene where they're pushing every button they have, but I can't remember if the daddy issues got into it. It seems like that may be a little low for Steve . . most of what he was throwing at Tony was "I miss my war buddies and how dare you not be them!" while most of what Tony heard was "you are pathologically incapable of being a good person on account of being you and not me, the Frankenstein!son your dad liked better

[mhalachaiswords]

Now that I think more on it, it seems like Steve was unhappy that Tony is So Not A Soldier and Tony's all like whatever bitch, I'm the awesomest sparkly unicorn with an Iron Man suit ever (and all the mixed signals in there too in teh conversation). I suspect that the Howard stuff is more fandom's button to push with those two.

But that scene was so freaking awesome. In fact, all Helicarrier lab scenes are my favourite ever. That and the rest of the movie.

Bruce and Natasha got paired up for most of the movie. She found him, he freaked her out good, she finds out that's he's Loki's master plan, he goes apeshit on her in the helicarrier, etc. I find it interesting how of all the craziness in the movie, the Hulk was the thing that actually got under Natasha's skin, made her lose her cool. Even with Clint being taken, she dealt with it and did all she could to get him back. But she had no idea how to deal with Bruce :)

[websandwhiskers]

Good points all, and I liked all the lab scenes too. It is totally unfair that you're too far away for us to go see this movie again, like, four more times, and dissect it over diner food

[mhalachaiswords]

You know what I'd love? Some classic Joss-snark between Natasha and Bruce in the next movie. Not Willow and Xander, per say, but Spike and anyone type :) 'Cept less evil.

I totally agree with you on Natasha - she's known from the outset that no matter what she'll never be able to protect herself from the Hulk. Even with Loki (the ultimate baddie in the movie) she held her own and got what she wanted. She'll never be able to do that with the Hulk

[websandwhiskers]

I would actually say Tony's more ego-heavy than id-heavy; he has a sense of morality, but tends to see damned near everything in terms of how it impacts him. .. which makes perfect sense for an emotionally neglected but brilliant only child; he made his own world and went and lived there. And he had the ability to do so far more literally than most