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So I am entirely caught up on SPN, and the righteous indignation, she is alive and well.
THEY CAN'T FIND GOD? WTF?
Also, Lucifer was kicked out because the God that says the first and greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, etc told the angels that they should love the humans more? WTF AGAIN?
I'd really, really love for someone to explain the biological process by which a person and the demon inhabiting that person make a baby.
And another thing re: who's responsible for the Apocalypse.
SEE. I'm pretty unimpressed with Dean blaming Sam for the Apocalypse, and I read someone's (it's been a whiiiiiile and I can't remember whose) explanation of how that makes sense, since Dean didn't know, he was dead at the time, and Sam made a season's worth of bad choices that led him to breaking the final seal.
But see, here's my thing. Dean's in hell and yes, I imagine the torture is unbearable. I mean, I can't even imagine, and Kripke in his infinite wisdom gave the torture an actual time length, which I'm pretty sure was 30 years, although I tried to scrub that from my brain and could be wrong as to the actual number of decades. But Dean? When he "climbed off the rack" (a phrase I still absolutely abhor) and started torturing other people, wasn't saving anyone but himself. He was trying to make his pain end by inflicting pain on others. Yes, yes I KNOW HE WAS IN HELL AND DEAD AT THE TIME. But his motivations were ultimately selfish.
Now, Sam? He listened to a demon. He'd been told pretty much since birth, at least since he was six months old, that you can't trust demons, that demons lie, that demons will manipulate you to their own ends. But we all saw the dark places Sam went when Dean was gone, and sure he was pretty freaking stupid to start drinking demon blood and to believe Ruby in the first place, but in the end, he killed Lilith because he thought it would PREVENT the Apocalypse. He thought he was buying a future for himself and his brother, even if it was a future in which Dean hated him because of what he'd done. The means Sam used to go about it were wrong, but the motivation was right.
Maybe motivations don't matter in the end, and the ends don't justify the means, especially in this case, but I think the reasons we do things should ultimately have weight and worth. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, sure, but Kripke's not using the actual Christian mythology anyway. :p
I was never happier this season than when Dean finally said "I broke the first seal" and accepted some responsibility for the Apocalypse as well. Good LORD but his righteous indignation was getting old.
THEY CAN'T FIND GOD? WTF?
Also, Lucifer was kicked out because the God that says the first and greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, etc told the angels that they should love the humans more? WTF AGAIN?
I'd really, really love for someone to explain the biological process by which a person and the demon inhabiting that person make a baby.
And another thing re: who's responsible for the Apocalypse.
SEE. I'm pretty unimpressed with Dean blaming Sam for the Apocalypse, and I read someone's (it's been a whiiiiiile and I can't remember whose) explanation of how that makes sense, since Dean didn't know, he was dead at the time, and Sam made a season's worth of bad choices that led him to breaking the final seal.
But see, here's my thing. Dean's in hell and yes, I imagine the torture is unbearable. I mean, I can't even imagine, and Kripke in his infinite wisdom gave the torture an actual time length, which I'm pretty sure was 30 years, although I tried to scrub that from my brain and could be wrong as to the actual number of decades. But Dean? When he "climbed off the rack" (a phrase I still absolutely abhor) and started torturing other people, wasn't saving anyone but himself. He was trying to make his pain end by inflicting pain on others. Yes, yes I KNOW HE WAS IN HELL AND DEAD AT THE TIME. But his motivations were ultimately selfish.
Now, Sam? He listened to a demon. He'd been told pretty much since birth, at least since he was six months old, that you can't trust demons, that demons lie, that demons will manipulate you to their own ends. But we all saw the dark places Sam went when Dean was gone, and sure he was pretty freaking stupid to start drinking demon blood and to believe Ruby in the first place, but in the end, he killed Lilith because he thought it would PREVENT the Apocalypse. He thought he was buying a future for himself and his brother, even if it was a future in which Dean hated him because of what he'd done. The means Sam used to go about it were wrong, but the motivation was right.
Maybe motivations don't matter in the end, and the ends don't justify the means, especially in this case, but I think the reasons we do things should ultimately have weight and worth. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, sure, but Kripke's not using the actual Christian mythology anyway. :p
I was never happier this season than when Dean finally said "I broke the first seal" and accepted some responsibility for the Apocalypse as well. Good LORD but his righteous indignation was getting old.