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ungodlikedeity November 9 2005, 20:28:57 UTC
Caveat: I agree that "ID", as you so acronymically put it, should not be taught in public schools.

Has it occurred to you that ID is quite a poetic acronym? I mean what is the ID? It is base human instinct. The part of the unconscious that drives impulses and seeks satisfaction of primitive needs while completely disregarding rational thought and lazily ignoring the consequences of all actions and conclusions. Note the irony. Also note that Freud's and Bush's version of "ID" can be used interchangeablly throughout this discussion.

It takes a "leap of faith" to believe in ID, correct? ID is still a theory and you can't say it is not scientific simply because it's not provable or falsifiable. Can you prove or disprove that ID can not be proven or falsified? The fact is that ID theory is likely provable/falsifiable, we just don't know how to prove/falsify it.

In fact, thousands of people spend their lives trying to prove ID.

I submit to you that it takes a "leap of non-faith" to assert that Evolution, a seemingly well-supported, but by no means "proven" theory, is scientific and Bush's version of "ID" is not. Note that Freud's version of "ID" has been taught in school for decades and is not the subject of your debate.

I have little problem with Freud's "ID" being taught in public schools. Why again does Bush's version not belong?

"She said that's not what she said.
Un-think the things in your head.
It's just a white that you red.
Chris went right over your head."

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ungodlikedeity November 9 2005, 20:30:52 UTC
I am sufficiently impressed with your argument. Astounding logic, my good friend, simply astounding.

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