OH WHAT A FUCKING NIGHT.

Mar 15, 2005 00:28

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yeah gravityfailed March 15 2005, 23:24:52 UTC
An arrest occurs when a person no longer reasonably expects that he is free to leave. A "Terry Stop" is not an arrest, even though the person can't leave during the investigatory questioning, as the detention is of short duration and is limited in its scope. (A "Terry Stop" may involve little more than a short series of questions, such as, "What is your name? Where do you live? Why are you here?") However, if a person is not allowed to leave the scene for an extended period of time, the person may be considered to be "under arrest," even though those words are never used. If a person is handcuffed, is locked in the back of a police car, or is otherwise restrained from leaving, the person will ordinarily be considered to be "under arrest."

While a "Terry Stop" can be made upon "reasonable suspicion" that a person may have been engaged in criminal activity, an arrest requires "probable cause" that a suspect committed a criminal offense.

Probable cause exists when "the facts and circumstances within the arresting officer's knowledge are sufficient to warrant a prudent person to believe that a suspect has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime."

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/criminal/police_stops.html
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p089.htm

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Re: yeah yourworstfriend March 16 2005, 04:54:20 UTC
But what does it change? What do you do if they arrest you without cause? Cry? To who?

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Re: yeah vorlagen March 16 2005, 07:40:54 UTC
Justin and I are going to the Sheriff's office on thursday to file a complaint and make sure everything is OK with records, etc...

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Re: yeah gravityfailed March 28 2005, 22:01:57 UTC
it doesn't really do much in this case... just good knowledge to have. but you need to know the legal definition of arrest if you ever get to the point where you're in court and you want to prove an unlawful arrest. and yeah, you can file a complaint, too. you could also sue the ACSD.

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Re: yeah yourworstfriend March 28 2005, 22:19:56 UTC
So you could say the street law has been effectively redefined.
Detainment without just cause is alright, which can include handcuffing, and holding in a locked, uncomfortable car for an indefinite period.
Arrest then would just be like, actually putting the person in jail. Because that's the only time you'd get your situation really brought into the courtroom. I'm sure the cops know that and that's why these legal definitions don't mean much.

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