Yeah, I think having some kind of a rectal valve specific for reproduction makes a lot of sense without really going that far from an evolutionary standpoint.
Having the shits before you go into heat sounds like the kind of thing that nature would throw at a poor omega. It's nasty -- but an omega would soon learn to heed it as a warning to get the hell home to his/her alpha pronto as well.
I don't know how grossed out you want to be about real birth but... er... let's say pooping during labor is actually pretty common. The nurses and midwives are trained to whisk it all off without bothering the mom about it. Also taking enemas is pretty common. It helps relieve pressure down there when that area is also full of baby head and for those women who are embarassed by the notion of pooping on the delivery bed.
Peeing happens quite easily, and not always intentionally. Again, usually you are out of it enough you don't care. The bladder has been so squashed for so long that there usually isn't much in it anyway. Later, after birth when everything swells the hell up it can end up being hard to pee, in which case you need to lean way over and sometimes put your hands on the ground to let go. And if you have stitches --OUCH!!!!
Although I haven't given birth I have had kids (and pets!) and between dealing with real life bodily fluids of various types and the kink meme, I really don't have many squicks left.
Thanks, that was informative!
Oh - and finally found your Omegaverse fill - enjoying it very much so far!
Oh, and I forgot the lochia and the amniotic fluid. I couldn't understand the people who wanted to wear their own pajamas after giving birth, considering the sheer amount of mess. Even mattress sized sanitary pads they give you can't quite contend with with it all.
Hee. Still yeah, nothing quite condends with the vomiting, pooping, peeing, drooling loveliness of the children themselve. I don't miss potty training.
Oh I know, but you've worked out logistics that no one else's omega verse contains. It reminds me of how fans of Star Trek made logical sense of and enacted what the creators' really just writing what sounded cool.
Also, reading the start of your version, and love it already!
Anal birth, always a classiclovetravelsOctober 4 2011, 03:21:36 UTC
So this (sort of) happens in real life, animals such as the platypus fall into a group of creatures that possess a cloaca-- where the urinary, digestive, and reproductive tracts all end in one external opening. (I knew that degree in Biology would serve a noble purpose one day!)
Love the story so far-- you never cease to amaze me with the amount of detail you put into your AUs. I squeed for joy when I saw you'd started this story idea.
Re: Anal birth, always a classiclovetravelsOctober 4 2011, 03:58:25 UTC
And now I'm obsessing....sorry.
To limit the amount of contamination from fecal matter monotremes lay eggs. I would think a omega's evolutionary equivalent could be a toughened placenta that wouldn't rupture during delivery itself, but would required the mother to remove it manually from the child. Many animals consume their placentas after delivery and have that evolutionary instinct to clear the baby's airway just in case the placenta is still covering their faces. And there's just something wonderfully squicky about the thought of early omegas using their teeth to rupture the placenta (à la gnawing through an umbilical cord) that makes me smile to myself.
Assbirth objections: Actually, assbirth happens with birds.
Birds only have one tube called the cloaca for waste and egg laying. Internally, the reproductive and digestive tract are separated; eggs are formed in a single fallopian tube which eventually empty into the cloaca. The feces come from digestive tract, and coming out of the cloaca too. The reason why these two completely different organ systems have been intergrated together so fully in birds is that one all-purpose tract is less heavy than two separate ones. So it's not too weird.
Also, why can't the omegas and betas simply lay eggs? This would be more in line with this idea that omegas are "bred" to produce many offspring at once. (Keep seeing the line about "breeding John" whenever I read these omegaverse! smut stories so I think many eggs are possible as opposed to many small babies.) And, you could make the eggs very tricky to incubate successfully to term so that's why omegas have to spend all their time raising the kids.
Not exactly seeing why laying eggs would be preferable to bearing live young. They'd have to be kept warm which would require some form of nest and sitting, and wouldn't be that convenient for carrying (at least without risk of dropping it.) Sitting on an egg for 9 months is kind of tough going and really cuts into the porn potential.
There are still a number of problems with having large litters, even after the eggs hatch. Even supposing that there are plenty of betas around to help with the raising (and believe me, human babies take a hell of a lot of raising).
Besides, I don't think the idea is that they have litters (though even if they did, there are plenty of animals that have litters and live births), so much as the Omegas (at least) spend an awful large amount of their time being pregnant. Or they did before birth control. Much, you know, the way human women used to and quiverful wives do now.
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Having the shits before you go into heat sounds like the kind of thing that nature would throw at a poor omega. It's nasty -- but an omega would soon learn to heed it as a warning to get the hell home to his/her alpha pronto as well.
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Umm... food poisoning? These things happen all the time in reality - no one asks for (or wants!) explanations :-)
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Peeing happens quite easily, and not always intentionally. Again, usually you are out of it enough you don't care. The bladder has been so squashed for so long that there usually isn't much in it anyway. Later, after birth when everything swells the hell up it can end up being hard to pee, in which case you need to lean way over and sometimes put your hands on the ground to let go. And if you have stitches --OUCH!!!!
Birth is a very messy disgusting business.
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Thanks, that was informative!
Oh - and finally found your Omegaverse fill - enjoying it very much so far!
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Hee. Still yeah, nothing quite condends with the vomiting, pooping, peeing, drooling loveliness of the children themselve. I don't miss potty training.
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Also, reading the start of your version, and love it already!
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Wikipedia, if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca
Love the story so far-- you never cease to amaze me with the amount of detail you put into your AUs. I squeed for joy when I saw you'd started this story idea.
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To limit the amount of contamination from fecal matter monotremes lay eggs. I would think a omega's evolutionary equivalent could be a toughened placenta that wouldn't rupture during delivery itself, but would required the mother to remove it manually from the child. Many animals consume their placentas after delivery and have that evolutionary instinct to clear the baby's airway just in case the placenta is still covering their faces.
And there's just something wonderfully squicky about the thought of early omegas using their teeth to rupture the placenta (à la gnawing through an umbilical cord) that makes me smile to myself.
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Birds only have one tube called the cloaca for waste and egg laying. Internally, the reproductive and digestive tract are separated; eggs are formed in a single fallopian tube which eventually empty into the cloaca. The feces come from digestive tract, and coming out of the cloaca too. The reason why these two completely different organ systems have been intergrated together so fully in birds is that one all-purpose tract is less heavy than two separate ones. So it's not too weird.
Also, why can't the omegas and betas simply lay eggs? This would be more in line with this idea that omegas are "bred" to produce many offspring at once. (Keep seeing the line about "breeding John" whenever I read these omegaverse! smut stories so I think many eggs are possible as opposed to many small babies.) And, you could make the eggs very tricky to incubate successfully to term so that's why omegas have to spend all their time raising the kids.
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There are still a number of problems with having large litters, even after the eggs hatch. Even supposing that there are plenty of betas around to help with the raising (and believe me, human babies take a hell of a lot of raising).
Besides, I don't think the idea is that they have litters (though even if they did, there are plenty of animals that have litters and live births), so much as the Omegas (at least) spend an awful large amount of their time being pregnant. Or they did before birth control. Much, you know, the way human women used to and quiverful wives do now.
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