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[veleda_k]

I said I was was trying to post content other than memes, but... I am weak. (And I like memes that run the chance of giving me an opportunity to meta.)

Give me one or ships, and I'll give you my honest opinion/take on them.

(Note: it says honest, so only ask if you're sure you want to know.)

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[sapphire2309]

Neal/Sara, of course.

Part one

[veleda_k]

My honest feelings on Neal/Sara?

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Okay, I love them a lot. They are this complex, adult relationship, and they are not flawless, and the relationship is not flawless, but when it works, it works.

Neal/Sara feels like a very real relationship to me. I have a lot of ships that are melodramatic and over the top, so that is something I enjoy, but I love Neal/Sara so much because they aren't like that. They don't need each other to live. They don't even need each other to be happy. If Neal and Sara never get back together, then I have no doubt they will build happy, meaningful lives apart. (I mean, I hate the idea of a world in which Neal and Sara don't get back together. I believe they do! But if they didn't, it wouldn't destroy either of them

Part two

[veleda_k]

That's not to say there aren't issues. The relationship is emotionally risky for Sara in a way it just isn't for Neal, because Sara is emotionally susceptible to Neal in a way he simply isn't to her. I'm not saying that Neal doesn't love Sara, that he doesn't value her opinion, and want to be with her. I'm talking about a particular kind of vulnerability that's instinctive and subconscious. Most people have this vulnerability to Neal, because Neal is extremely good at bringing it out in people. (Not on purpose. Again, this is something that's automatic and subconscious.) Sara and Peter have this vulnerability the most though. (Elizabeth and Jones have it the least. I keep wanting to write a whole meta piece on this, especially how it relates to Elizabeth and Neal's relationship, but it's never quite coalesced.) This doesn't mean that Neal/Sara is an abusive relationship in the least. Nor does it mean that it's a bad relationship for her to be in. It's simply something that's there, the same way it's there in so many of Neal's other

Part three, fuck

[veleda_k]

And if you thought I could talk about White Collar without talking about White Collar fandom, then you underestimate my bitterness. (Never underestimate my bitterness. I am the grand lord of bitterness.) 'Cause White Collar fandom sucks. I talked a bit about fandom’s inability to even recognize that Neal has wronged Sara. This is problem with just about every character in regards to Neal, but it hits Sara really hard. White Collar fandom is really sexist, and it has enormous difficulty recognizing that women characters even have points of view to be acknowledged. I vividly remember one person commenting about 4x04 that they wanted to punch Sara in the face during her conversation with Neal about Cape Verde because she was "making it all about her." And, of course, this was patently false. Sara specifically said it wasn't about her. But what's really going is the idea that Sara doesn't have the right to have feelings, especially not feelings that aren't convenient to Neal. (I love Neal a whole lot, but, god, he is fandom's great white

[sheenianni]

If not-canon relationships are okay, I'd like Sara/Diana.

If not, Root/Shaw :)

Sara/Diana

[veleda_k]

Non-canon relationships are totally okay

Re: Sara/Diana

[sheenianni]

I get what you mean. I love the idea of the two of them, but there's barely a time when they have an interaction together. There's the double date, but we don't really see them talk much. Beyond that... I'm drawing blanks.

I also like Sara/Alex, but it's the same issue there... Well, they have the one thirty second talk towards the end of Under the Radar. Nice moment, but once again, not much time together onscreen.

Yay for POI rewatch :D

Root/Shaw part one (Spoilers for Person of Interest season four)

[veleda_k]

My newest ship obsession. I didn't really ship them until season four, when they grabbed onto my heart and held it. I love how odd they are, how much they don't look like a traditional ship in many ways. (I think this is a shipping button of mine. People who are unable or unwilling to have "normal" relationships, who resist that conventionality.) Neither Root nor Shaw are entirely emotionally "right," so it's inevitable that any relationship they have is going to exist at an angle