I spent my time in the Marines, church was compulsory in the beginning of boot, but later you had the option of opting out and doing work details
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If you're referring to the sixth commandment, the (original) Hebrew means "You shall not commit murder." Unless one considers all acts of war to be murder (including the Biblical ones), then those prosecuting said acts don't violate the commandment. "Atrocities in the field" as you call them, certainly would fall under the category of murder- which I'm glad we (globally) agree on being forbidden.
Your padre's Biblical knowledge must've been pretty poor if he had to invoke a loophole when a clear explanation like this is so obvious.
...and I mean really: "Though shalt not 'kill'" would logically lead us to conclude that we couldn't hunt or fish- does that make any sense?
Re: Bible-metadiermuidJanuary 21 2011, 03:58:28 UTC
I'm living an hour away from Fred Phelps, so I've certainly seen some atrocities in biblical interpretation. ;-)
I think the Chaplain explained it well enough, killing in a just war was not the same as the 'murder' referred to in the commandment. I suppose it depends on how you define murder... but in most senses we're still training to kill people in a premeditated act of aggression. Not that I had any problem with the killing of other people, I just kept my Christianity out of it.
Re: Bible-metathe_pathogenJanuary 22 2011, 21:13:20 UTC
So, by your own admission you're a Christian Vegan? As I'm sure you're a devout Christian and you must practice your faith to the best of your understanding and interpretation. If you conclude that "killing" includes non-humans, you must practice not killing humans.
I think "Though shalt not kill" should be kept within the scope of the other 10 commands. That is just common sense. Unless you're a moron and believe that we can't "steal" or "commit adultery" or "bear false witness" against animals, too. Hilarious!
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If you're referring to the sixth commandment, the (original) Hebrew means "You shall not commit murder." Unless one considers all acts of war to be murder (including the Biblical ones), then those prosecuting said acts don't violate the commandment. "Atrocities in the field" as you call them, certainly would fall under the category of murder- which I'm glad we (globally) agree on being forbidden.
Your padre's Biblical knowledge must've been pretty poor if he had to invoke a loophole when a clear explanation like this is so obvious.
...and I mean really: "Though shalt not 'kill'" would logically lead us to conclude that we couldn't hunt or fish- does that make any sense?
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I think the Chaplain explained it well enough, killing in a just war was not the same as the 'murder' referred to in the commandment. I suppose it depends on how you define murder... but in most senses we're still training to kill people in a premeditated act of aggression. Not that I had any problem with the killing of other people, I just kept my Christianity out of it.
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I think "Though shalt not kill" should be kept within the scope of the other 10 commands. That is just common sense. Unless you're a moron and believe that we can't "steal" or "commit adultery" or "bear false witness" against animals, too. Hilarious!
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