*Going to argue that, because he's still being stubborn and trying very hard to not be a monster be in denial. Not that it always works or anything, but he's trying.*
...but you don't try to eat people. You're not like them.
Look, I don't... think you really get it. I'm not like them.
I don't push people around, claiming I just want to ask something, and then go hunting them down to scare the shit out of them before I kill them, when I don't like their answer, or they tell me they don't know anything. I don't go into someone else's territory and slaughter all their comrades and eat them. I don't go after people who haven't done a damn thing to deserve it!
Just because they haven't done it that you've seen doesn't mean they haven't done it. They tried to eat me alive when I got here, and even before that? They killed me. I lost all my officers to them, and then some, and then they killed me too.
And they're not even sorry about it! I mean-- so what if their strategist said something; Serph sure as hell never said a damn thing to me. Not once when he was here did he say anything about it! I think if he was at all sorry that he killed me and my Tribe, he would've mentioned it, but you know what the last thing he told me was? We were in that place with the cheesecake, and he told me it was neutral territory, like that was supposed to make everything okay! Can you believe that? He and Abel talked before Heat got killed, or something... Abel. Not me, one of my comrades. And Serph agreed to some sort of truce with him. And then he saw that stupid toy and flew off the handle and changed his mind, when even his strategist liked it, and Sera? Sera really the thing. She wanted me to make her more of those! Did Serph ever say one word to me about that either, after he threw a fit? No. Abel'd said something to them again, which was probably why he didn't attack us in the cheesecake place. I never asked him to deal with the Embryon for us, and I didn't expect him to, but he did. And that's how damn little Serph's word is worth anyway, when he gives it. It's all on his terms, it's when he feels like it, and he'll break it whenever he wants. And he's strong enough to get away with it, and he knows it.
*takes a breath, making himself calm down. Upset as he's gotten again, at least he hasn't raised his voice yet.*
I'm pretty damn sure this is why Bat wants that peace treaty in print, so it's not just verbal, with them. And we'll get whatever law system is being set up in this place involved, too, so they can't get away with breaking it just because they're stronger. Serph and the others woke up already? That's great. They're not here right now. We'll get the other Embryon to sign it in the meanwhile, and pressure Serph to when he goes to sleep and shows up here again. Or gets his stupid ass killed and comes back, whichever comes first. I don't care which... hope he takes his sweet time in getting back, though. ... I can't even say I hope I don't see him again as long as I live, since thanks to him, that's already over with. *not bitter at all, no, of course not. :/*
You should get to know some of the other people around here. There're people that're a lot better than them, people that're worth getting to know. They're not like the Embryon... and neither am I. I'm not a monster.
*quiet a sec, eyeing her* I don't think you really are either. So you can stop saying you're like them, and you can stop trying to make excuses for them, when they won't even apologize for themselves.
Okay?
((...I think she just about got more out of him there than Abel ever did. 0_o; ))
-=just lets him rant, taking in everything he has to say=-
Harley, do you remember what you were like back in the Junkyard, before we all began to change? If someone attacked you, did you not defend yourself? Argilla explained much to me, and I believe what she had said. None of us understood what was going on.
You are not the same person you were then, you are not the same person you were when you came to be here, and neither were they. Serph is not Heat, and Heat is not Gale. They are all different people who feel differently when faced with the same thing. It is unfair to damn them all for the few you do not like due to a misunderstanding.
I would have spoken with Abel over you as well, Harley. You do not listen well.
I trust them. I allied the Maribel with the Embryon for a battle against the Solids, and they were not the ones who betrayed me. They were the one's to defended me, who avenged the slaughter of my tribe.
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I don't listen well.
I don't--
*pauses, at a loss as to what to say for a moment, before he sighs and continues again, quiet*
I don't listen? Why, because I won't trust Serph if he says he won't hurt me? Let's see, the first time he really proved me right, he killed me. The next time, he broke his word to Abel, but thankfully, no one ended up dead. I don't want to give him another chance at that, so okay, fine. I don't listen.
And yeah. I always did defend myself, and I'll still defend myself. If one of them tries to come after me or my comrades again, I'll shoot their damn head off. That's the whole point, Jinana. I don't trust them. I can't trust Serph, at least, and they all willingly follow him. That tells me something.
And even if they helped you out? They came into my base and slaughtered everyone. I don't care how you want to spin that, it's not defense. Defense is telling them to get the hell out of where they weren't invited, like I tried to do. And they killed me for it. So... so good for you, that you haven't had that problem with them. I have. I hope they don't do to you what they did to me. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
But you know what? Sure. Fine. They're great people. They're all wonderful. Doesn't mean I want to get to know them. I'm not going to stop you from making friends with whomever you want, but don't expect me to try getting all buddy-buddy with them. They can stay on their side of Somarium, and I'll stay on mine. Suits me just fine if I never see them again. I don't need to be friends with people that tore me apart and ate me, and I don't want to be. All I want from them is a promise I can trust, that they'll leave me and my comrades alone, while I stay on my side of the line and leave them alone, and make friends with people I want to make friends with. You know, people I can trust. Like Abel. And Rise.
You know, they actually apologize when we just bump into each other? No one's really hurt, but they still say they're sorry, because they didn't mean to do that. I've never heard the phrase "I'm sorry" used so many times in one day before. Sometimes, it's just because we stepped into each other's way in the kitchen, and we haven't even bumped into each other yet. Or something was said wrong and it sounded mean when we didn't mean for it to. It would've been nice if I heard "I'm sorry" even once from Serph or his Second, but you know what? I never did. You know what I got instead? You know what? *not waiting for her to guess* Nothing. And their Second just kept being an asshole and saying he wanted to eat me again. The first time when they hunted me down in my own base wasn't enough. The second time, when I just got to this place and he tore my shoulder open, that wasn't enough either, obviously... there was another video on these things after that, and he was saying he wanted to eat me then too. If they were sorry, they would've said so. And they didn't. They never apologized for any of what they did to me or my Tribe. So I don't care how much you think they've supposedly changed; I don't think they regret doing it at all.
They owe me at least an apology, and I didn't get that. You can owe them whatever the hell you want. I owe them at least a few ass-kickings, but you know what? I'll totally settle for just getting them all to sign the damn treaty saying they won't lay a finger on my comrades ever again, and then I'll sign it too and leave them alone, as though I don't already.
Glad you get along with them. I.... *pauses to wipe his eyes, and frowns at his fingers with some quiet mutter that sounds suspiciously like "stupid leaking"*
I don't listen, sure, whatever. But Serph wasn't sorry, and neither was his Second, and I don't trust them. And I'm not like them. I don't turn into a thing and go around eating people. I'm not a monster.
It was just a dream.
-=he's not the only one terrorized by what he is=-
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....
That didn't really...? *can't bring himself to finish asking if it actually happened*
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No.
-=shakes her head, realizing he's probably never seen her in that form=-
That creature... was also me.
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....huh?
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I am the same as you and the Embryon. That is how I look when I change.
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*Going to argue that, because he's still being stubborn and trying very hard to not be a monster be in denial. Not that it always works or anything, but he's trying.*
...but you don't try to eat people. You're not like them.
Right?
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I do not, as long as I am in control of myself. Same as they, Harley, and same as you.
They do not hunt others, or try to devour them. If they had then a war surly would have started by now.
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That's not even--
Look, I don't... think you really get it. I'm not like them.
I don't push people around, claiming I just want to ask something, and then go hunting them down to scare the shit out of them before I kill them, when I don't like their answer, or they tell me they don't know anything. I don't go into someone else's territory and slaughter all their comrades and eat them. I don't go after people who haven't done a damn thing to deserve it!
Just because they haven't done it that you've seen doesn't mean they haven't done it. They tried to eat me alive when I got here, and even before that? They killed me. I lost all my officers to them, and then some, and then they killed me too.
And they're not even sorry about it! I mean-- so what if their strategist said something; Serph sure as hell never said a damn thing to me. Not once when he was here did he say anything about it! I think if he was at all sorry that he killed me and my Tribe, he would've mentioned it, but you know what the last thing he told me was? We were in that place with the cheesecake, and he told me it was neutral territory, like that was supposed to make everything okay! Can you believe that? He and Abel talked before Heat got killed, or something... Abel. Not me, one of my comrades. And Serph agreed to some sort of truce with him. And then he saw that stupid toy and flew off the handle and changed his mind, when even his strategist liked it, and Sera? Sera really the thing. She wanted me to make her more of those! Did Serph ever say one word to me about that either, after he threw a fit? No. Abel'd said something to them again, which was probably why he didn't attack us in the cheesecake place. I never asked him to deal with the Embryon for us, and I didn't expect him to, but he did. And that's how damn little Serph's word is worth anyway, when he gives it. It's all on his terms, it's when he feels like it, and he'll break it whenever he wants. And he's strong enough to get away with it, and he knows it.
*takes a breath, making himself calm down. Upset as he's gotten again, at least he hasn't raised his voice yet.*
I'm pretty damn sure this is why Bat wants that peace treaty in print, so it's not just verbal, with them. And we'll get whatever law system is being set up in this place involved, too, so they can't get away with breaking it just because they're stronger. Serph and the others woke up already? That's great. They're not here right now. We'll get the other Embryon to sign it in the meanwhile, and pressure Serph to when he goes to sleep and shows up here again. Or gets his stupid ass killed and comes back, whichever comes first. I don't care which... hope he takes his sweet time in getting back, though. ... I can't even say I hope I don't see him again as long as I live, since thanks to him, that's already over with. *not bitter at all, no, of course not. :/*
You should get to know some of the other people around here. There're people that're a lot better than them, people that're worth getting to know. They're not like the Embryon... and neither am I. I'm not a monster.
*quiet a sec, eyeing her* I don't think you really are either. So you can stop saying you're like them, and you can stop trying to make excuses for them, when they won't even apologize for themselves.
Okay?
((...I think she just about got more out of him there than Abel ever did. 0_o; ))
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-=just lets him rant, taking in everything he has to say=-
Harley, do you remember what you were like back in the Junkyard, before we all began to change? If someone attacked you, did you not defend yourself? Argilla explained much to me, and I believe what she had said. None of us understood what was going on.
You are not the same person you were then, you are not the same person you were when you came to be here, and neither were they. Serph is not Heat, and Heat is not Gale. They are all different people who feel differently when faced with the same thing. It is unfair to damn them all for the few you do not like due to a misunderstanding.
I would have spoken with Abel over you as well, Harley. You do not listen well.
I trust them. I allied the Maribel with the Embryon for a battle against the Solids, and they were not the ones who betrayed me. They were the one's to defended me, who avenged the slaughter of my tribe.
I owe them much.
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I don't--
*pauses, at a loss as to what to say for a moment, before he sighs and continues again, quiet*
I don't listen? Why, because I won't trust Serph if he says he won't hurt me? Let's see, the first time he really proved me right, he killed me. The next time, he broke his word to Abel, but thankfully, no one ended up dead. I don't want to give him another chance at that, so okay, fine. I don't listen.
And yeah. I always did defend myself, and I'll still defend myself. If one of them tries to come after me or my comrades again, I'll shoot their damn head off. That's the whole point, Jinana. I don't trust them. I can't trust Serph, at least, and they all willingly follow him. That tells me something.
And even if they helped you out? They came into my base and slaughtered everyone. I don't care how you want to spin that, it's not defense. Defense is telling them to get the hell out of where they weren't invited, like I tried to do. And they killed me for it. So... so good for you, that you haven't had that problem with them. I have. I hope they don't do to you what they did to me. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
But you know what? Sure. Fine. They're great people. They're all wonderful. Doesn't mean I want to get to know them. I'm not going to stop you from making friends with whomever you want, but don't expect me to try getting all buddy-buddy with them. They can stay on their side of Somarium, and I'll stay on mine. Suits me just fine if I never see them again. I don't need to be friends with people that tore me apart and ate me, and I don't want to be. All I want from them is a promise I can trust, that they'll leave me and my comrades alone, while I stay on my side of the line and leave them alone, and make friends with people I want to make friends with. You know, people I can trust. Like Abel. And Rise.
You know, they actually apologize when we just bump into each other? No one's really hurt, but they still say they're sorry, because they didn't mean to do that. I've never heard the phrase "I'm sorry" used so many times in one day before. Sometimes, it's just because we stepped into each other's way in the kitchen, and we haven't even bumped into each other yet. Or something was said wrong and it sounded mean when we didn't mean for it to. It would've been nice if I heard "I'm sorry" even once from Serph or his Second, but you know what? I never did. You know what I got instead? You know what? *not waiting for her to guess* Nothing. And their Second just kept being an asshole and saying he wanted to eat me again. The first time when they hunted me down in my own base wasn't enough. The second time, when I just got to this place and he tore my shoulder open, that wasn't enough either, obviously... there was another video on these things after that, and he was saying he wanted to eat me then too. If they were sorry, they would've said so. And they didn't. They never apologized for any of what they did to me or my Tribe. So I don't care how much you think they've supposedly changed; I don't think they regret doing it at all.
They owe me at least an apology, and I didn't get that. You can owe them whatever the hell you want. I owe them at least a few ass-kickings, but you know what? I'll totally settle for just getting them all to sign the damn treaty saying they won't lay a finger on my comrades ever again, and then I'll sign it too and leave them alone, as though I don't already.
Glad you get along with them. I.... *pauses to wipe his eyes, and frowns at his fingers with some quiet mutter that sounds suspiciously like "stupid leaking"*
I don't listen, sure, whatever. But Serph wasn't sorry, and neither was his Second, and I don't trust them. And I'm not like them. I don't turn into a thing and go around eating people. I'm not a monster.
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Harley...
-=she thinks a moment, then shakes her head=-
You need to calm down, there is much you do not understand, nor do you seem to care to. I will not speak with you when you are like this.
-=doesn't mean to be curt, but that comfort thing? She's not all that good at it=-
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Like understanding their excuses is supposed to make me want to forgive them for all of that. Right.
I'll talk to you later, then. Glad your okay. I just... yeah. Later. *not exactly mad at her or anything, just frustrated as he hangs up.*
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