Some Movie Talk

Aug 28, 2005 12:40

Memoirs of a Geisha - I actually really have been wanting to read this book, and I'm almost certain that I'm going to get to it now before this movie comes out. Why? Because it looks like a piece of crap! A. PIECE. OF. CRAP. Not even the sheer greatness of Zhang Ziyi, Ken Watanabe, and Michelle Yeoh can change that. Since that douche bag director ( Read more... )

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Regarding Memoirs... adgy August 28 2005, 21:37:30 UTC
It is possible for a movie to be worth watching and even excellent simply because of the performances of the people in it.

For this reason, I have no doubts about this movie. It may end up being poorly scripted and/or shoddily made, but I have NO DOUBT that the assmebled cast will make this movie watchable. Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh, Ken Watanabe, Gong Li, Koji Yakusha, Kenneth Tsang, etc? There is no reason not to expect great things.

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... ultimate_ioga August 29 2005, 02:10:30 UTC
First off, that avatar trumps all of mine combined

And the cast may be great, but they sound like the only english they know is what was written on the script. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST FUCKING SPEAK JAPANESE?! It seriously isn't like Rob Marshall is making this film for the viewers, he's making it to get that naked golden man on his fireplace, something that Polanski rightfully robbed from him and Scorsese in the same year.

I'll tell you what though, any indication of Zhang Ziyi not having acting abilities fizzled pretty fucking fast when I was watching 2046. She was phenominal. Ken Watanabe needs to be in a cop movie. I saw him in a suit, and he looked even cooler than Mifune did in Stray Dog. These actors shouldn't be wasting their time with crap like this. I guarantee you'd rather see the exact same actors star in really anything else.

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... adgy August 29 2005, 07:41:13 UTC
All of my avatars trump all of your avatars, my son.

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST FUCKING SPEAK JAPANESE?! It seriously isn't like Rob Marshall is making this film for the viewers, he's making it to get that naked golden man on his fireplace,

No doubt. But there's no way he'd have a chance of getting that naked golden man if the movie was in Japanese. Similarly, having the movie in Japanese would severely limit it's audience. Add in the fact that Marshall doesn't speak Japanese and... there's just no way.

any indication of Zhang Ziyi not having acting abilities fizzled pretty fucking fast when I was watching 2046.

Good man. Yeah, definitely her finest performance thus far. Added points for being the nearest to nudity she's ever been in a movie, except the whole wet t-shirt thing in Crouching Tiger.

These actors shouldn't be wasting their time with crap like this. I guarantee you'd rather see the exact same actors star in really anything else.Ah, but see... I think it's very very smart of them to want in on this movie. As you yourself said ( ... )

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... ultimate_ioga August 29 2005, 09:06:21 UTC
regarding this being a smart move -

remember what the honkeys did to John Woo?

Jackie Chan?

CYF - the corruptor was not that cool

Anything Zhang Ziyi has done here in the states has pretty much been the same (rush hour 2, just to remind you)

EVERY remake of an asian movie so far has licked complete balls. Shit, look at the magnificent seven! You want them to get EXPOSURE here?

Hollywood and asian cinema should stay far away from each other.

trust me, when Zhang Ziyi shows up in Dukes of Hazard 2, you'll understand

calling this good would be like calling the Infernal Affairs dvd cover "cool". The white man doesn't get it.

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... adgy August 29 2005, 21:00:02 UTC
No no no. Listen. This is not the same as what happened to John Woo and Jackie Chan. This movie is an OSCAR movie. It WILL get rave reviews. That seperates it from the movies Woo, Chan, and Chow Yun Fat have done. By miles. This adds respectability.

You want them to get EXPOSURE here?

Yes! Absolutely! If it means someone lke Ziyi or Gong Li will from now on get offers to be in movies that AREN'T Rush Hour 2 and Replacement Killers, then HELL FUCKIN YEAH I want them in this movie. I want to see Michelle Yeoh work with Sam Mendes, not some newbie director whose previous experience is music videos. You know what I'm saying? This will raise them up a notch on the Hollywood ladder and give them better opportunities in the future. It means that they will be able to turn down shitty movies like Dukes Of Hazard 2. TRUST ME.

The white man doesn't get it.

Not yet. But he will. Someday. And this movie is going to help that along. Just you watch.

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... ultimate_ioga August 29 2005, 23:16:05 UTC
Zhang Ziyi was put on the US map with Crouching Tiger...an oscar movie

Ken Watanabe wwas put on the map by Last Samurai...An Oscar-nominated role

Michelle Yeoh...Crouching Tiger. I'll even give you Supercop since it got a theatrical release here in the states.

---remember that---

Watanabe played a comic book villain for prolly 10 minutes at the most

Zhang Ziyi was directed by Brett Ratner

Michelle Yeoh's moves got to be called "pathetic" by Jonathon Pryce in a JAMES BOND MOVIE. She joins those ranks of recent "bond girls" with Charlie Sheen's wife, Storm from X-Men, and a Desperate Housewife.

I'm just saying

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... adgy August 30 2005, 00:41:34 UTC
This is the most interesting and intelligent conversation you've ever had, I bet.

Zhang Ziyi was in Rush Hour 2 because she's friends with Jackie Chan. He asked her to be in it with him. And she hasn't gone on to do other crappy movies since then, has she? No. In fact, I don't think she's been in a single bad movie since then.

Don't tell me you think Ken Watanabe being in Batman Begins was a bad thing. Doesn't matter if the role was only 10 minutes long, it was one worth taking. And he never even would have been offered the role if not for The Last Samurai. Being in the Batman movie didn't lessen his Hollywood value or his chances of landing a quality role in the US in the future. If anything, it increased his chances.

Michelle Yeoh was in the James Bond movie BEFORE Crouching Tiger... And even though it was a Bond movie, it was NOT a bad career choice. It certainly hasn't led to her being stuck with crappy movies since then, either ( ... )

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... ultimate_ioga August 30 2005, 03:47:26 UTC
I'm going to let this one sit out, and we'll see what happens.

The second Zhang Ziyi is in something retarded, expect something similar to the Astonishing X- Men #4 debacle a year ago. Same goes for Watanabe.

Ken Watanabe should work with Fincher.

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Re: Regarding Memoirs... adgy August 30 2005, 20:26:03 UTC
expect something similar to the Astonishing X- Men #4 debacle a year ago.

HAHA. Deal.

Fincher should work with Watanabe. Get off his ass and do a fucking movie again.

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