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krzcowzgomoo June 18 2010, 02:06:49 UTC
I'm speechless. HE DOES.

And about the whole UK left and US left thing: imagine having a line that looks like this

left-------centre-------right

and shift it so that it's more like this:

left---USleft---centre-------right---------------------------USright

Hope that helps, I'm tired...

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ali_in_london June 18 2010, 02:28:20 UTC
Aha, yes that makes sense.

So basically our lefties are a bit more leftie than anything mainstream-hitting of your lot, but when the US head to the right.... woah, boy, there's some right to be headed to there.

Of course the usual problem about classifying politics on one axis is weighing heavy here. But that's a debate for an epic meta-post.

Hmm, and I assumed my first post would be an inquisitive meta-"wherefore art thou previous fandom" post. Ahh, the world - it's not half shifting.

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krzcowzgomoo June 18 2010, 02:46:04 UTC
Well, we have some lefties that are as far left as your far lefties, but we just don't really have representation for them since we only have the two main parties... and yea, the right can be so extreme (think Palin) that the Republican Party is now kind of breaking into a two parites (Tea and Republican with Tea being the farthest right).

Hope that helps too!

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woops sorry for the semi-thread jump! 67 June 18 2010, 07:34:53 UTC
US far leftie here! /waves

Yeah I'm just gonna add that it's less Republican ------ Tea Party now and more Republican -- Tea Party - Tea is becoming less and less fringe since Fox is backing them.

and re: left: one reason this whole election has been really interesting to watch for me is because some of the things that have gotten an outcry about being So Right-wing! or So Conservative! are like -- so center for us. Like a CONSERVATIVE politician being PRO GAY RIGHTS? Say whaaaat! Not even all of our liberal politicians are pro gay rights.

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grapefruitzzz June 18 2010, 08:25:18 UTC
There's that two-dimensional axis where they compare 'socially liberal' and 'argh, someone's saying money words at me' values differently.

I think, by US terms, all UK politics is socially liberal apart from the PETER BONE wing. The big US election debates about socialised medicine and gay rights start here from a 'yeah, we all know these things are good now let's try to sneak them past the Daily Fail' perspective

And then there's the money stuff, which um.

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dcncftw June 18 2010, 17:05:59 UTC
I would put it like this,

left--------centre---US Left---Right---------------------------------US Right?

amiright? y/y?

but I could be wrong.

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krzcowzgomoo June 18 2010, 20:18:30 UTC
In a satirical way, yes that's right, but in actuality no. ;D

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dcncftw June 18 2010, 20:47:49 UTC
You're right =) of course.
at least, if we're using British left centre and right as set markers. Because otherwise I would say you know, labour and centre-left, conservatives are centre-right...in fact not long back Labour could hardly be considered left anymore...rendering the left, centre, right markers useless to most intents and purposes.

But thankyou for getting the satirical nature of my comment, I was slightly concerned about it! =D

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