Recent Thoughts and Reflections

[uhohlostaneye]

Gay marriage is wrong, I think any educated and thoughtful person in their right mind knows that. But too many people support a "compromise" (code word for stepping stone) amendment to the Constitution allowing for civil unions. Unfortunately, those of us with political foresight understand that this is simply a stepping stone amendment that will

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Re: Leave it be

[uhohlostaneye]

Interesting, you have a concept of God and judgement (though no concept of common courtesy by letting me know who you are). Now wouldn't it be YOUR duty as someone who uncerstands the way God judges to uphold a moral standard and not encourage sinfulness? I think you're confusing judgement with being steadfast in my moral convictions. At no point did I say anything negative about a homosexual person. I am against HOMOSEXUALITY, not HOMOSEXUALS. In fact, I hav several friends who are openly gay, people dear to me. That does not mean I support their actions, that does not mean i support their lifestyle, and in fact, I fulfill my Christian duty by maintaining my Christian values (it is EXPLICITLY clear in the bible that homosexuality is wrong, Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:26-27, etc.) and by making my stance clear and encouraging homosexuals to act in accordance wtih nature and work on the arduous task of overcoming their sexual sin. My stance opposing gay marriage is one that should be held by every Christian who believes the bible in the absolute truth and authority in being God's spoken word. If not, you are encourgaing sin. Plain and simple. Love gays, don't love what they do. Paul himself condemned homosexuality as a practice in the Roman empire during the time he wrote to the Romans. So was Paul unrightfully judging? Was Paul, one of the most influential men in the spread of Christianity, an incredible instrument in the expansion of God's church, a man who brought the gospel to thousands of lost people so that they may escape eternal judgement, unrightfully judging these people and wrongfully assuming the role of our creator and judge? I hardly think so. For someone who so adamantly stands up for the role of Christ, I think maybe you should reevaluate your role as a steward of His gift to you and your responsiblities to share that gift with others.

Re: Leave it be

[uhohlostaneye]

I suppose i might find it my duty to uphold morals standards, and to share the gift.....if i myself was a christain, which i am not, so that solves that. I believe in equal human rights for EVERYONE though.

Re: Leave it be

[uhohlostaneye]

So I should have the right to murder. Oh wait, I live in America where abortions are legal, I do have that right. We fail to realize that rights only go so far. Not everything is a "right." I don't have right to do whatever I want in the name of human rights. Have some decency man (or woman).

By the way, why would you hold me to a higher moral standard than yourself and expect me not to judge when you're obviously not bound by the same set of standards as I am? That seems hypocritical. Just an observation.

Re: Leave it be

[uhohlostaneye]

Murder and Abortion are both wrong, they are against the law, but they also include the taking of a humans life, which in no way relates to the gay marriage issue. By allowing these people to marry you are not casing mortal damage to anyones life, so i really don't see how you can compare the three.

Have some decency you say? Is it decent to deny human beings the right or love? Weather you believe it or not gays do not choose to be that way, it is not a choice, it is a God-given charateristic of themselves. If God didn't like it he would not create it. These people want the right to see their loved one in the hospital when ill, they want the rights that every other heterosexual person in this country recieve, and you want to deny them that? You want to tell people how they can/can't live their lives?

Gay marriage may not be right in the bible, i've read the bible, i know its in there, but these people are not asking to be married under God, they are asking to be married through the state, religions have every right to not allow it in their churches and by their administers, but marriage is not all about religion, there are tons of people who get married by the state and have nothing to do with religion. I whole heartedly support you if you say they can't get married officaily by a church, but to deny them the right of state marriage, which has no 'rules' persay, state marriage is not run by the Bible, Koran, Torah or any other book, so it is NOT about religion. You tell me to have decency and you're the one who wants to take rights away from these people.

That admendment to the constitution, that Bush is pushing, that would be an outrage to this country and all that we stand for. Writing discrimination into the document that proclaims our freedom is hypocricy!

Re: Leave it be

[uhohlostaneye]

We'll start with the God-given characteristic point. Homosexuality is NOT natural, as much as you'd like to think so. Anatomy speaks most loudly to this fact in that the parts simply don't match up. Having read the bible, I'm sure you know that God created Adam and Eve, and Adam was not complete until God had created Eve from him, then God said it was good. If god meant for homosexuality to exist, he could have created another man instead of a woman, and he would have made animals homosexual (which they are not). Scientifically, homosexuality is a sham. Using your logic, I can hypothesize that since murder exists, God must have created that to, and it's alright to practice, in fact, it should be our right to murder someone else. Homosexuality, like all of our sin, is simply that: sin. It is a perversion of the things God has given us. We have the choice to act in the way we want because God has given us that choice. Our responsiblity is to act according to His will and His design for us and for those gifts he gives us, and as you said, he will judge us accordingly. A gay man's sexual sin is no different than any sexual sin I committ, and I'm willing to admit that my sin is wrong. I'm willing to attempt, with God's guidance and direction, to overcome this sin. In no way is my sin condonable, or remotely natural, just because I pratice it. In the same way, God didn't create my sin, He allowed for me to sin.

Secondly, you need to read the constitution. I'd like to see the part (as somebody who has read the entire document on many occasions as an avid history buff and a political science major, I surely haven't seen this part) that states that people have the right to homosexual marriage, something that is morally wrong. I'd like to truly understand how banning homosexual marriage is creating second class citizens and purporting a "seperate but equal" policy. Are gays being forced to sit in the backs of buses? Are gays not allowed to vote or run for office? The true problem here is discrimination towards heterosexuals who actually stand up for their beliefs. Christians in the United States have been getting the short end of the legal stick for decades now, most notably starting with the Roe vs. Wade case in 1974 that legalized the murder of babies in the United States, and continuing as social minorities, people who are essentially unwilling to admit to sinful, wrong behavior, have filed lawsuit after lawsuit against Christians who are simply adhering to the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights, and practicing their right to believe what they believe. I find it odd that legislation acts in favor of any interest group who wants to express religious freedom EXCEPT Christians. It's time the first amendment began to benefit not only minorities in the United States, but the majority as well.

Also, contrary to popular belief, the majority of Americans don't believe that homosexual marriages should be legalized. The loud minority simply speaks louder, as is the case in most situations. sadly enough, the Supreme Court feels it is their duty to play social justice brigade and legalize anything that is not of popular opinion, without regard for morality, in a twisted Millisian Extreme Liberalism. The great commonwealth of Massachusetts is in danger of becoming the first great autocracy in the United States as the Supreme Court Tribunal passes legislation against the will of its own people. I believe legislators have the duty of making laws, not radical bleeding hearts with robes and gavels. THAT is in the Constitution.

Finally, I find it sad that you have no vision of future for your country. You worry about the so called "rights" of minorities such as gays, who frankly have all the rights any other citizen who abides by the laws that govern us, both natural and institutional, while your own country falls to shambles as it increasingly secularizes. As Ronald Reagan so accurately put it, "The Roman empire fell when they abandoned their gods..." The United States, as it spiral further and further away from any moral standard, loses credibility among the rest of the world, but more importantly, and more devastatingly, among its own people.