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John Varley "Press Enter", он же Джон Варли "Нажмите ввод". Hugo award winner 1984.
Оч. хорошо. Нужно читать, но в оригинале.
Немного не понял игру слов (букв).
At the end, Bubble Sorter wrote "bye-p." Lisa typed T.
"What's T?" I asked.
"True. Means yes, but yes would be too straightforward for a hacker.''
"You told me what a byte is. What's a byep?"
She looked up at me seriously.
"It's a question. Add p to a word, and make it a question. So bye-p means Bubble Sorter was asking if I wanted to log out. Sign off."
Может кто пояснит почему "p"? Или просто от фонаря? В русском переводе переводчик вообще букву заменил на "I". Он что хотел сказать?
Да русский перевод не рекомендую.
Я бы простил переводчику и перевод software как аппаратное обеспечение (и далее матобеспечение - что за зверь?).
Простил я ему "тарельчатые антенны" и прочие мелочи вроде "V+L-I" вместо "There was a big V, and under it a picture of a screw, followed by a hyphen and a small case "p."
Простил bable-sorter вместо "buble sorter" (хотя это может при ocr изменилось ) и позывной вместо ника (ну откуда он мог в конце 80-х всё это знать?), но за что было выкидывать самое интересное? Суки-суки-суки. Советская цензура. Выкинули весь цимес. Политику и секс, хрен с ней с политикой, но верните народу назад силикиновые сиськи главной героини!
Вот кусок в русском переводе.
Лиза положила очки на стол и стянула майку через голову.
К вечеру мы решили, что Лизе стоит перебраться в мой дом.
А вот как это выглядит в оригинале.
Много латинских букв -- сексуальная сцена (с юмором)
She put her glasses on the table and pulled her shirt over her head.
We made love in Kluge's big waterbed.
I had a certain amount of performance anxiety-it had been a long, long time. After that, I was so caught up in the touch and smell and taste of her that I went a little crazy. She didn't seem to mind.
At last we were done, and bathed in sweat. She rolled over, stood, and went to the window. She opened it, and a breath of air blew over me. Then she put one knee on the bed, leaned over me, and got a pack of cigarettes from the bedside table. She lit one.
"I hope you're not allergic to smoke," she said.
"No. My father smoked. But I didn't know you did."
"Only afterwards," she said, with a quick smile. She took a deep drag. "Everybody in Saigon smoked, I think." She stretched out on her back beside me and we lay like that, soaking wet, holding hands. She opened her legs so one of her bare feet touched mine. It seemed enough contact. I watched the smoke rise from her right hand.
"I haven't felt warm in thirty years," I said. "I've been hot, but I've never been warm. I feel warm now."
"Tell me about it," she said.
So I did, as much as I could, wondering if it would work this time. At thirty years remove, my story does not sound so horrible. We've seen so much in that time. There were people in jails at that very moment, enduring conditions as bad as any I encountered. The paraphernalia of oppression is still pretty much the same. Nothing physical happened to me that would account for thirty years lived as a recluse.
"I was badly injured," I told her. "My skull was fractured, I still have… problems from that. Korea can get very cold, and I was never warm enough. But it was the other stuff. What they call brainwashing now.
"We didn't know what it was. We couldn't understand that even after a man had told them all he knew they'd keep on at us. Keeping us awake. Disorienting us. Some guys signed confessions, made up all sorts of stuff, but even that wasn't enough. They'd just keep on at you.
"I never did figure it out. I guess I couldn't understand an evil that big. But when they were sending us back and some of the prisoners wouldn't go… they really didn't want to go, they really believed…"
I had to pause there. Lisa sat up, moved quietly to the end of the bed, and began massaging my feet.
"We got a taste of what the Vietnam guys got, later. Only for us it was reversed. The GJ.'s were heroes, and the prisoners were…"
"You didn't break," she said. It wasn't a question.
"No, I didn't."
"That would be worse."
I looked at her. She had my foot pressed against her flat belly, holding me by the heel while her other hand massaged my toes.
"The country was shocked," I said. "They didn't understand what brainwashing was. I tried telling people how it was. I thought they were looking at me funny. After a while, I stopped talking about it. And I didn't have anything else to talk about.
"A few years back the Army changed its policy. Now they don't expect you to withstand psychological conditioning. It's understood you can say anything or sign anything."
She just looked at me, kept massaging my foot, and nodded slowly. Finally she spoke.
"Cambodia was hot," she said. "I kept telling myself when I finally got to the U.S. I'd live in Maine or someplace, where it snowed. And I did go to Cambridge, but I found out I didn't like snow."
She told me about it. The last I heard, a million people had died over there. It was a whole country frothing at the mouth and snapping at anything that moved. Or like one of those sharks you read about that, when its guts are ripped out, bends in a circle and starts devouring itself.
She told me about being forced to build a pyramid of severed heads. Twenty of them working all day in the hot sun finally got it ten feet high before it collapsed. If any of them stopped working, their own heads were added to the pile.
"It didn't mean anything to me. It was just another job. I was pretty crazy by then. I didn't start to come out of it until I got across the Thai border."
That she had survived it at all seemed a miracle. She had gone through more horror than I could imagine. And she had come through it in much better shape. It made me feel small. When I was her age, I was well on my way to building the prison I have lived in ever since. I told her that.
"Part of it is preparation," she said, wryly. "What you expect out of life, what your life has been so far. You said it yourself. Korea was new to you. I'm not saying I was ready for Cambodia, but my life up to that point hadn't been what you'd call sheltered. I hope you haven't been thinking I made a living in the streets by selling apples."
She kept rubbing my feet, staring off into scenes I could not see.
"How old were you when your mother died?"
"She was killed during Tet, 1968. I was ten."
"By the Viet Cong?"
"Who knows? Lot of bullets flying, lot of grenades being thrown."
She sighed, dropped my foot, and sat there, a scrawny Buddha without a robe.
"You ready to do it again, Yank?"
"I don't think I can, Lisa. I'm an old man."
She moved over me and lowered herself with her chin just below my sternum, settling her breasts in the most delicious place possible.
"We'll see," she said, and giggled. "There's an alternative sex act I'm pretty good at, and I'm pretty sure it would make you a young man again. But I haven't been able to do it for about a year on account of these." She tapped her braces. "It'd be sort of like sticking it in a buzz saw. So now I do this instead. I call it 'touring the silicone valley.' " She started moving her body up and down, just a few inches at a time. She blinked innocently a couple times, then laughed.
"At last, I can see you," she said. "I'm awfully myopic."
I let her do that for a while, then lifted my head.
"Did you say silicone?"
"Uh-huh. You didn't think they were real, did you?"
I confessed that I had.
"I don't think I've ever been so happy with anything I ever bought. Not even the car."
"Why did you?"
"Does it bother you?"
It didn't, and I told her so. But I couldn't conceal my curiosity.
"Because it was safe to. In Saigon I was always angry that I never developed. I could have made a good living as a prostitute, but I was always too tall, too skinny, and too ugly. Then in Cambodia I was lucky. I managed to pass for a boy some of the time. If not for that I'd have been raped a lot more than I was. And in Thailand I knew I'd get to the West one way or another, and when I got there, I'd get the best car there was, eat anything I wanted any time I wanted to, and purchase the best tits money could buy. You can't imagine what the West looks like from the camps. A place where you can buy tits!"
She looked down between them, then back at my face.
"Looks like it was a good investment," she said.
"They do seem to work okay," I had to admit.
We agreed that she would spend the nights at my house.
Надо было это экранизировать. Героиню должна была играть Анджелина Джоли времен через несколько лет после "Хакеров".
Оч. хорошо. Нужно читать, но в оригинале.
Немного не понял игру слов (букв).
At the end, Bubble Sorter wrote "bye-p." Lisa typed T.
"What's T?" I asked.
"True. Means yes, but yes would be too straightforward for a hacker.''
"You told me what a byte is. What's a byep?"
She looked up at me seriously.
"It's a question. Add p to a word, and make it a question. So bye-p means Bubble Sorter was asking if I wanted to log out. Sign off."
Может кто пояснит почему "p"? Или просто от фонаря? В русском переводе переводчик вообще букву заменил на "I". Он что хотел сказать?
Да русский перевод не рекомендую.
Я бы простил переводчику и перевод software как аппаратное обеспечение (и далее матобеспечение - что за зверь?).
Простил я ему "тарельчатые антенны" и прочие мелочи вроде "V+L-I" вместо "There was a big V, and under it a picture of a screw, followed by a hyphen and a small case "p."
Простил bable-sorter вместо "buble sorter" (хотя это может при ocr изменилось ) и позывной вместо ника (ну откуда он мог в конце 80-х всё это знать?), но за что было выкидывать самое интересное? Суки-суки-суки. Советская цензура. Выкинули весь цимес. Политику и секс, хрен с ней с политикой, но верните народу назад силикиновые сиськи главной героини!
Вот кусок в русском переводе.
Лиза положила очки на стол и стянула майку через голову.
К вечеру мы решили, что Лизе стоит перебраться в мой дом.
А вот как это выглядит в оригинале.
Много латинских букв -- сексуальная сцена (с юмором)
She put her glasses on the table and pulled her shirt over her head.
We made love in Kluge's big waterbed.
I had a certain amount of performance anxiety-it had been a long, long time. After that, I was so caught up in the touch and smell and taste of her that I went a little crazy. She didn't seem to mind.
At last we were done, and bathed in sweat. She rolled over, stood, and went to the window. She opened it, and a breath of air blew over me. Then she put one knee on the bed, leaned over me, and got a pack of cigarettes from the bedside table. She lit one.
"I hope you're not allergic to smoke," she said.
"No. My father smoked. But I didn't know you did."
"Only afterwards," she said, with a quick smile. She took a deep drag. "Everybody in Saigon smoked, I think." She stretched out on her back beside me and we lay like that, soaking wet, holding hands. She opened her legs so one of her bare feet touched mine. It seemed enough contact. I watched the smoke rise from her right hand.
"I haven't felt warm in thirty years," I said. "I've been hot, but I've never been warm. I feel warm now."
"Tell me about it," she said.
So I did, as much as I could, wondering if it would work this time. At thirty years remove, my story does not sound so horrible. We've seen so much in that time. There were people in jails at that very moment, enduring conditions as bad as any I encountered. The paraphernalia of oppression is still pretty much the same. Nothing physical happened to me that would account for thirty years lived as a recluse.
"I was badly injured," I told her. "My skull was fractured, I still have… problems from that. Korea can get very cold, and I was never warm enough. But it was the other stuff. What they call brainwashing now.
"We didn't know what it was. We couldn't understand that even after a man had told them all he knew they'd keep on at us. Keeping us awake. Disorienting us. Some guys signed confessions, made up all sorts of stuff, but even that wasn't enough. They'd just keep on at you.
"I never did figure it out. I guess I couldn't understand an evil that big. But when they were sending us back and some of the prisoners wouldn't go… they really didn't want to go, they really believed…"
I had to pause there. Lisa sat up, moved quietly to the end of the bed, and began massaging my feet.
"We got a taste of what the Vietnam guys got, later. Only for us it was reversed. The GJ.'s were heroes, and the prisoners were…"
"You didn't break," she said. It wasn't a question.
"No, I didn't."
"That would be worse."
I looked at her. She had my foot pressed against her flat belly, holding me by the heel while her other hand massaged my toes.
"The country was shocked," I said. "They didn't understand what brainwashing was. I tried telling people how it was. I thought they were looking at me funny. After a while, I stopped talking about it. And I didn't have anything else to talk about.
"A few years back the Army changed its policy. Now they don't expect you to withstand psychological conditioning. It's understood you can say anything or sign anything."
She just looked at me, kept massaging my foot, and nodded slowly. Finally she spoke.
"Cambodia was hot," she said. "I kept telling myself when I finally got to the U.S. I'd live in Maine or someplace, where it snowed. And I did go to Cambridge, but I found out I didn't like snow."
She told me about it. The last I heard, a million people had died over there. It was a whole country frothing at the mouth and snapping at anything that moved. Or like one of those sharks you read about that, when its guts are ripped out, bends in a circle and starts devouring itself.
She told me about being forced to build a pyramid of severed heads. Twenty of them working all day in the hot sun finally got it ten feet high before it collapsed. If any of them stopped working, their own heads were added to the pile.
"It didn't mean anything to me. It was just another job. I was pretty crazy by then. I didn't start to come out of it until I got across the Thai border."
That she had survived it at all seemed a miracle. She had gone through more horror than I could imagine. And she had come through it in much better shape. It made me feel small. When I was her age, I was well on my way to building the prison I have lived in ever since. I told her that.
"Part of it is preparation," she said, wryly. "What you expect out of life, what your life has been so far. You said it yourself. Korea was new to you. I'm not saying I was ready for Cambodia, but my life up to that point hadn't been what you'd call sheltered. I hope you haven't been thinking I made a living in the streets by selling apples."
She kept rubbing my feet, staring off into scenes I could not see.
"How old were you when your mother died?"
"She was killed during Tet, 1968. I was ten."
"By the Viet Cong?"
"Who knows? Lot of bullets flying, lot of grenades being thrown."
She sighed, dropped my foot, and sat there, a scrawny Buddha without a robe.
"You ready to do it again, Yank?"
"I don't think I can, Lisa. I'm an old man."
She moved over me and lowered herself with her chin just below my sternum, settling her breasts in the most delicious place possible.
"We'll see," she said, and giggled. "There's an alternative sex act I'm pretty good at, and I'm pretty sure it would make you a young man again. But I haven't been able to do it for about a year on account of these." She tapped her braces. "It'd be sort of like sticking it in a buzz saw. So now I do this instead. I call it 'touring the silicone valley.' " She started moving her body up and down, just a few inches at a time. She blinked innocently a couple times, then laughed.
"At last, I can see you," she said. "I'm awfully myopic."
I let her do that for a while, then lifted my head.
"Did you say silicone?"
"Uh-huh. You didn't think they were real, did you?"
I confessed that I had.
"I don't think I've ever been so happy with anything I ever bought. Not even the car."
"Why did you?"
"Does it bother you?"
It didn't, and I told her so. But I couldn't conceal my curiosity.
"Because it was safe to. In Saigon I was always angry that I never developed. I could have made a good living as a prostitute, but I was always too tall, too skinny, and too ugly. Then in Cambodia I was lucky. I managed to pass for a boy some of the time. If not for that I'd have been raped a lot more than I was. And in Thailand I knew I'd get to the West one way or another, and when I got there, I'd get the best car there was, eat anything I wanted any time I wanted to, and purchase the best tits money could buy. You can't imagine what the West looks like from the camps. A place where you can buy tits!"
She looked down between them, then back at my face.
"Looks like it was a good investment," she said.
"They do seem to work okay," I had to admit.
We agreed that she would spend the nights at my house.
Надо было это экранизировать. Героиню должна была играть Анджелина Джоли времен через несколько лет после "Хакеров".