CAHSEE Unconstitutional?

[tyty573]

First, read this: Superior Court Judge Rules CAHSEE Unconstitutional.Now, what the fuck? Why is it Unconstitutional? It discriminates? Fucking shit, people. How can a test discriminate? Does the test automatically fail you if you fill in your race as Hispanic? No. Do test-handlers read through the names of people taking the test, looking for people

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[amisellepasser]

Next time you prepare to post a hugely offensive rant on a public website, please consider the following scenarios:
1) the amount of will power it takes to sit in an over-crowded classroom in which there may or may not be a teacher who is a) qualified or b) a permanent faculty member, trying to pay attention to a lesson when the level of education of the students in the room varies to a huge degree, and your personal needs are not taken into account in the least. The teacher, whether a permanent faculty member or a substitute, qualified or not, speaking your language or not, is just trying to get through the lesson and hoping that the forty students in the room will be able to glean something useful from his or her teaching.
2) classes are conducted in English, which is your second language. You are the child of a single parent who works double shifts in order to provide an income so that you can stay in high school. You have never been provided sufficient opportunity to learn to read and write in English, so the standardized test that you will have to take in English at the end of high school is an enormous hurdle.
3) You're a hard worker, but people like disseta and tyty573 can't see past the color of your skin long enough to recognize your human characteristics. They don't give you a chance because they're sure you're going to rob them or push drugs on them. Over the years, you become increasingly disenchanted with the American education system because, no matter how much it professes to care about the problems in its schools, it can't see past its prejudices.

Obviously, the situation of every Hispanic, every Asian, and every black person is not the same, but they are all the objects of disgusting hatred and discrimination, and until you get rid of your own bigoted point of view, your argument for the CAHSEE will be completely invalid and unexcusably offensive.

[kokuraz]

First off I saw no racism aside from the few jokes thats were very sterotypical and racist but goddamn funny. Anyway, You are right that our education system sucks ass and is for the most part a worthless pile of dogshit but that is everyones problem, not just minorities. Evenso that doesn't account for why people can not pass such low level math and other simple tests. If someone can't pass that test then its an insult that they got that far in highschool and will more likely than not ammount to nothing in life regaurdless of a highschool diploma or not. Infact the test may be a good thing because it will be like a slap in the face to a few people who don't pass showing them that they will need to shape up.

Although classes are tought in english all elementry schools and many middle/highschools offer classes that teach english as a second language and teach them how to cope with any sort of communication handicap. Many highschools even have assisted learning classes (one of which I was mistakenly put in ;_;) which will actually help people with the test and I have no doubt if anyone struggles with the english language they will help that person by translating parts of it.

People who fail that test being a hardworker is obviously bullshit. If they are a hardworker they wouldn't have any problem with that test in the first place since they'd be doing well all throughout school anyway. And even if they wouldn't be doing well throughout school, its not hard to learn or get the help required for taking that test anyway.

The peopel who would have most trouble with that test would be those who push drugs, rob, and commit other types of crime. Kids who start doing that at an early age rarely have a use for education. The sad thing is that statistically many minorities turn to this way of life and much earlier in life. The minorities who are failing this test aren't failing because they are minorities, its because many (not all...) are into a criminal/druggy lifestyle which they have the ability to overcome.

Ty has a very valid point. The test is not graded with race in mind so it is not racist. Everyone has an equal chance of failing but many minorities happen to fail easier because of their choices and priorities in life.

[caucasian69]

The students who fail this are not necessarily into drugs or crime, but they simply do not study enough at all.

[tyty573]

Still a good enough reason not to graduate.

[caucasian69]

I agree.

[caucasian69]

The mathamatics questions that were sampled in this post could be passed by any race, especially hispanics. I am a Spanish II student and can easily translate those questions into Spanish. Since both hispanics and Americans use the same numerical system and symbols, the test would be even simpler.

Although tyty573 did use rather harsh terms and display a seemingly racist attitude in this post, she(?) and the other users were correct when they said that the exam is not unconstitutional.

Immigrants should know enough English to pass most tests administered by public schooling systems. Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States does it even begin to imply that a mathematics exam for all graduating students was prohibited.

[tyty573]

He. And I was harsh and racist partially because I was angry, and partially because I find it amusing. No true racist feelings behind them, though.