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Pandora Hearts Retrace LXIII Discussion

Jul 19, 2011 22:43

...I was going to wait for the scanlation, but we've all been waiting long enough so...
Here we go.

( But I don't want to go among 'mad people' )

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ryoura July 20 2011, 21:53:47 UTC

I WANT TO RANT FOREVER ( ... )

total_alias July 20 2011, 22:29:09 UTC

SLEEP IS FOR PEOPLE WITHOUT FANDOM.

Yup. Alice also called Oz her "key" here. But I'm wondering if that was a mistranslation? I hope it wasn't, though.

In other words, if Oz is what's screwing it up, and he is also what can fix it, Oz may be the one to destroy Alyss?

Dude, I was just thinking about this. Okay, the Tragedy happened when Alyss appeared. Tragedy = Sablier sucked into the Abyss. But that has nothing to do with why Glen ordered the Baskervilles to kill everyone. Do you think it's possible that he was trying to spare them from tortured life in this new Abyss? Or that Alyss' appearance distorted him somehow? I mean, he was a servant of the lights Abyss, then Alyss shows up and things went crazy. What kind of effect did that have on Glen? Or Glen's actions ( ... )

ryoura July 20 2011, 22:46:31 UTC

*should be sleeping ( ... )

total_alias July 20 2011, 23:09:11 UTC

Well, there is technically no time in the Abyss. You go in, you come out. If you can get Alyss to send you out at a specific time then there you have time travel! :D

YES. I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS. Also, this scene (3 pages). If Jack wasn't the master you're talking about, who was? I'll freaking tell you who.

THAT'S RIGHT. I NEED TO TALK TO YOU MORE. I completely missed that "again" there with B-Rabbit.

Ok. Mind is made up. Oz was there. He was there there there there there. There are too many facts supporting it for it to not be true. He was there. End of story.

ryoura July 20 2011, 23:25:17 UTC

Exactly! :D It's connected to all places at all times, and if it can change the past then of course time travel could work~ :D ( ... )

ryoura July 20 2011, 23:28:29 UTC

Ignore what I said about the whole Jack master thing; duh XD;;;
Master you serve but can't protect... Tragic ending ahead? ;A;

total_alias July 20 2011, 23:33:16 UTC

Yeah, Jack's all, "I'm not the master you're talking about right now, because you protected me. I'm not the one that you couldn't protect."

I REJECT TRAGIC ENDINGS.

But I would probably be unsatisfied with any other sort of ending...we'll see.

saphirablossom July 22 2011, 00:17:06 UTC

Oh my... I'm so sorry, but I think I absolutely have to say something about the whole "Oz-time-travel" theory, because dear god, the truth of it just smacked me in the face at 2 A.M ! XD

The more time goes by, the more I'm starting to think that Oz (and maybe Gil/Alice/Break/Leo ?) going back to the Tragedy of Sablier is where all those ambiguous and cryptic messages we've been getting from the beginning are pointing to...
Like "Alice" trying to kill Oz in that pseudo-vision from chapter one saying, "I'll never forgive you!", and then having that memory when Oz killed Yura, where her memory-self was definitely saying Oz's name.
Or the one that definitely got me convinced, back when Oz had just discovered that "Raven" and "Gil" are the same person, and they see Jack for the first time sorry, I don't remember what chapter exactly that was... *is shot*. Just when the "memory" is shattering, Jack turns to Gil and says, "Oh, it's you. Make sure you protect him properly this time."... Something tells me that Jack wasn't talking about ( ... )

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