vaya con dios
I gotta admit, i thought the episode was a little slow to get going, but once Smokey and Jacob showed up, it was all pretty great. I love that Smokey introduces himself all "my friend" this and "my friend" that, while Jacob introduces himself with a beatdown and attempted drowning (and yet still comes across as the good guy??!) LOL JACOB.
So this time around we got a bit more of Jacob's side of things... and he presents his motivations in the same way that Smokey did, i.e. "i just want you to do your own thing, man! no controlling here!" Then they proceed to fuck with everyone ever. WHAT A COUPLE OF DICKS. I also think it's interesting that Smokey tells Richard to stab Jacob before he says anything, which is exactly what the temple dudes told Sayid about killing Smokey, yet stabbing Smokey didn't do a goddamn thing (because Jacob is dead?). How the hell was Ben able to kill Jacob? What was Smokey's loophole?
I was a little weirded out by all the direct references to the island as Hell/everyone is dead, but i guess it was necessary to discount that theory once and for all. But if Smokey gets free they are all FOR REALS going to Hell?!? Or figuratively? Well, either way, DOOOOOOOOM. (and the need to keep Smokey on the island as he convinces people to let him go makes me think of the Twilight Zone episode The Howling Man. Then again, Lost pretty much entirely exists within the Twilight Zone, AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT)
It's so horrible that Richard CHOSE to live forever. SO CREEPY AND SAD. I don't think those bonus atonement points for longevity are paying off.
I really really liked the penultimate scene of Richard, Hurley, and ghost Isabella. FEELINGS. ;__; Also, HURLEY IS GREAT. Particularly this season, he's come into his own as this highly sympathetic, wisely reasonable yet still slightly befuddled guide, and it's awesome. I was trying to figure out how he got the ability to talk to dead people, but i guess it happened after he got off the island and it was supposedly just a symptom of him being crazy. (and then i wonder if Dave the imaginary friend was actually an imaginary friend or a ghost? of course, he showed all the obvious signs of simply being a part of Hurley's subconscious, but the fact that Hurley saw and conversed with him in the same way he does with ghosts MAKES ME WONDER.) I loved when he told Jack to basically fuck off because the ghost conversation had nothing to do with him. Oh Jack, not the center of the universe after all, are you, buddy?
I'm still a little confused about how Richard saw Isabella in the Black Rock. My first thought was that it was Smokey, but then the presence of the smoke monster outside seemed to negate that, although i guess he could still have separate smoke available even when he is in the form of a person. So i'm sure he was just fucking with Richard. BUT how did he know what Isabella looked and sounded like? All the dead people we've seen him impersonate have all at least been bodies on the island, but Isabella was never anywhere near the island. So he just culled that information from Richard's MIND? I guess if the smoke monster could show Eko images of his life that that's possible, or maybe he was able to use Isabella's necklace. IDK, STUFF.
The Black Rock broke the statue? A WOODEN SHIP destroyed a STONE statue? Well that seems HIGHLY UNLIKELY!
I was kind of disappointed that the time frame of the flashback was so narrow, because like... immortality? You could zoom through a shitload of junk! But then again we've already seen Richard in most of the relevant island time periods anyway. I was just curious to see what happened when more people arrived on the island pre-Dharma, the accumulation of the Others, etc. I also sort of hoped Richard would be way more ancient. Ah well. Jacob and Smokey interaction was A+. How freaking long was it just the three of them alone on the island??? Richard really got the personalized treatment.
I REALLY WISH WE HAD A REAL NAME FOR SMOKEY. I hate calling him "Smokey" but "Man in Black" is too cumbersome, "MIB" is lame, and "Esau" is inaccurate. >:(
The campfire scene with everybody getting up to speed on the whole candidate business was weird just because you expect them all to know this shit already, since we learned it weeks ago; it gets hard to keep track of who knows what. Richard's laugh when Ilana asked him what to do next was PRICELESS. I LOLed.
I liked all the Spanish! I appreciate that Lost doesn't shy away from extensive use of foreign languages.
Jacob calling the island a "fresh start" and it doesn't matter what they did before: exactly like Jack's speech to Kate in Tabula Rasa! You know, that ONE TIME Jack was pretty zen about shit before he ran around being all judgey and demanding to know what Kate did. Hahaha. It's such a nice scene but it makes me laugh because he goes back on his word so completely.
Oh my god, so i watch the episodes as they air live, and commercial breaks are fucking KILLING MY SOUL this season, for real. I felt like i was going insane tonight. It seems like it's an even five minutes of episode, five minutes of commercials, repeat. I know there is technically more show than commercials BUT IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT. uggggghhhhh. Not enough tiiiiiime.
I picked back up on rewatching season 2 (i had been watching it... over the summer i think? but i fell off after the halfway mark for no good reason.) and ANYWAY it's so awesome to see the introduction of Ben before he was BEN!!!! and this exchange in 2x16 seemed especially relevant:
[We see Gale reading in the armory. Jack enters.]
JACK: How is it?
GALE: [reading from the book] Men reject their prophets and slay them, but they love their martyrs and honor those whom they have slain. [to Jack] So what's the difference between a martyr and a prophet?
JACK: Either way, it sounds like you end up dead.
GALE: That's the spirit.
:O
So this time around we got a bit more of Jacob's side of things... and he presents his motivations in the same way that Smokey did, i.e. "i just want you to do your own thing, man! no controlling here!" Then they proceed to fuck with everyone ever. WHAT A COUPLE OF DICKS. I also think it's interesting that Smokey tells Richard to stab Jacob before he says anything, which is exactly what the temple dudes told Sayid about killing Smokey, yet stabbing Smokey didn't do a goddamn thing (because Jacob is dead?). How the hell was Ben able to kill Jacob? What was Smokey's loophole?
I was a little weirded out by all the direct references to the island as Hell/everyone is dead, but i guess it was necessary to discount that theory once and for all. But if Smokey gets free they are all FOR REALS going to Hell?!? Or figuratively? Well, either way, DOOOOOOOOM. (and the need to keep Smokey on the island as he convinces people to let him go makes me think of the Twilight Zone episode The Howling Man. Then again, Lost pretty much entirely exists within the Twilight Zone, AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT)
It's so horrible that Richard CHOSE to live forever. SO CREEPY AND SAD. I don't think those bonus atonement points for longevity are paying off.
I really really liked the penultimate scene of Richard, Hurley, and ghost Isabella. FEELINGS. ;__; Also, HURLEY IS GREAT. Particularly this season, he's come into his own as this highly sympathetic, wisely reasonable yet still slightly befuddled guide, and it's awesome. I was trying to figure out how he got the ability to talk to dead people, but i guess it happened after he got off the island and it was supposedly just a symptom of him being crazy. (and then i wonder if Dave the imaginary friend was actually an imaginary friend or a ghost? of course, he showed all the obvious signs of simply being a part of Hurley's subconscious, but the fact that Hurley saw and conversed with him in the same way he does with ghosts MAKES ME WONDER.) I loved when he told Jack to basically fuck off because the ghost conversation had nothing to do with him. Oh Jack, not the center of the universe after all, are you, buddy?
I'm still a little confused about how Richard saw Isabella in the Black Rock. My first thought was that it was Smokey, but then the presence of the smoke monster outside seemed to negate that, although i guess he could still have separate smoke available even when he is in the form of a person. So i'm sure he was just fucking with Richard. BUT how did he know what Isabella looked and sounded like? All the dead people we've seen him impersonate have all at least been bodies on the island, but Isabella was never anywhere near the island. So he just culled that information from Richard's MIND? I guess if the smoke monster could show Eko images of his life that that's possible, or maybe he was able to use Isabella's necklace. IDK, STUFF.
The Black Rock broke the statue? A WOODEN SHIP destroyed a STONE statue? Well that seems HIGHLY UNLIKELY!
I was kind of disappointed that the time frame of the flashback was so narrow, because like... immortality? You could zoom through a shitload of junk! But then again we've already seen Richard in most of the relevant island time periods anyway. I was just curious to see what happened when more people arrived on the island pre-Dharma, the accumulation of the Others, etc. I also sort of hoped Richard would be way more ancient. Ah well. Jacob and Smokey interaction was A+. How freaking long was it just the three of them alone on the island??? Richard really got the personalized treatment.
I REALLY WISH WE HAD A REAL NAME FOR SMOKEY. I hate calling him "Smokey" but "Man in Black" is too cumbersome, "MIB" is lame, and "Esau" is inaccurate. >:(
The campfire scene with everybody getting up to speed on the whole candidate business was weird just because you expect them all to know this shit already, since we learned it weeks ago; it gets hard to keep track of who knows what. Richard's laugh when Ilana asked him what to do next was PRICELESS. I LOLed.
I liked all the Spanish! I appreciate that Lost doesn't shy away from extensive use of foreign languages.
Jacob calling the island a "fresh start" and it doesn't matter what they did before: exactly like Jack's speech to Kate in Tabula Rasa! You know, that ONE TIME Jack was pretty zen about shit before he ran around being all judgey and demanding to know what Kate did. Hahaha. It's such a nice scene but it makes me laugh because he goes back on his word so completely.
Oh my god, so i watch the episodes as they air live, and commercial breaks are fucking KILLING MY SOUL this season, for real. I felt like i was going insane tonight. It seems like it's an even five minutes of episode, five minutes of commercials, repeat. I know there is technically more show than commercials BUT IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT. uggggghhhhh. Not enough tiiiiiime.
I picked back up on rewatching season 2 (i had been watching it... over the summer i think? but i fell off after the halfway mark for no good reason.) and ANYWAY it's so awesome to see the introduction of Ben before he was BEN!!!! and this exchange in 2x16 seemed especially relevant:
[We see Gale reading in the armory. Jack enters.]
JACK: How is it?
GALE: [reading from the book] Men reject their prophets and slay them, but they love their martyrs and honor those whom they have slain. [to Jack] So what's the difference between a martyr and a prophet?
JACK: Either way, it sounds like you end up dead.
GALE: That's the spirit.
:O