Seen him knock a man clean out of his corduroy slippers

Dec 15, 2009 17:37

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sakuranochi December 16 2009, 14:35:56 UTC
You know, as much as I like King when he is on, he never really convinced me to give a fuck about Roland. Yeah, he's a badass, we get it, but he's such a self-serving using cunt.

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thorne_scratch December 16 2009, 16:45:49 UTC
You know, to be honest, I don't think we're really supposed to like Roland. (And not only because King is totally in big gay love and would cut a bitch for looking at Roland.) Roland's a badass, but King makes no bones about the fact he's a deeply flawed and obsessed badass, and these lead to his own downfall (or loop, if you would.)

I think we're supposed to find him and the way his quest both succeeds and fails interesting-- which I certainly do, but YMMV-- but not necessarily like him.

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sakuranochi December 17 2009, 00:08:40 UTC
I dunno, I still like the Dark Tower (although I was really disappointed at some points, but that is life), but I always more interested in "what is going to happen", than "what is going to happen to Roland" specifically. The flawed heroes of the tragedies at least have good intentions that we can get behind, Roland is just obsessed with the tower. Yeah, the villains die and everything, but it feels like it is just a sidething to his obsession, and I could never really care about his obsession. I get what King is trying to do with it, but it never really grabbed me, I just see Roland as a dick. Like Eddie says, he's a "tower junkie", he's like a addict who kills his friends just to get his fix. At first I felt sorry for him, but as the story progresses he just gets worse and worse. Sacrificing people for some abstract idea seems more akin to tyranny than heroism. I spent my time wondering if he was just insane from the deaths of Susan and his first Ka-tet, and perhaps he is. At others, I found myself wondering if Roland and Crimson ( ... )

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sakuranochi December 17 2009, 08:54:00 UTC
(Also it probably doesn't help that the one thing I was completely behind Roland for, killing that motherfuck Flagg, was taken away from me when King had Mordred kill him instead. Dude fucked his mom, not cool man, not cool. To say I felt cheated would be a bit of an understatement.)

Hmm, there are so many spoilers here, hope no one reading this hasn't read Dark Tower yet XD)

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thorne_scratch December 17 2009, 17:52:45 UTC
I was disappointed Flagg was killed the way he was. Seemed kind of a letdown, after the way he'd shown up in so many other stories besides the Dark Tower sries-- the character deserved a more interesting end than just a note about getting raped in the ass as a kid and having his Magneto-helmet fail to protect him from getting eaten by Roland's spider-kid. Yeah, not that satisfying.

We are spoiler bandits! *snugs you*

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thorne_scratch December 17 2009, 17:49:30 UTC
I dunno, I still like the Dark Tower (although I was really disappointed at some points, but that is life), but I always more interested in "what is going to happen", than "what is going to happen to Roland" specifically.I think that's a perfectly valid way to feel. It's such a huge story, to focus solely on Roland would be to lose out on many of the other things. I think one of the problems of the Dark Tower, in a way, as that they were published so slowly. Sometimes, it's hard to get a good clear look at the overarching storyline and character journey in particular when you really need to reread each new book because there's been a couple years gaps in between. I remembered a lot of things wrong; I had theories and ideas about characterization that, when I reread all the books in order, seemed totally off ( ... )

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sakuranochi December 18 2009, 15:40:16 UTC
I think in some ways Roland uses the tower as a coping mechanism to deal with what happened when he was young, and the great irony is that in doing so, it causes him the same loss. But yeah, I love Wizard and Glass, young Roland was pretty cool prior to his asshole years. I was hoping The Wind Through the Keyhole would be about that, but sadly its just what happens between the end of Wizard and Glass and the beginning of The Wolves of Callea apparently.

By the way, I totally love you.

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thorne_scratch December 20 2009, 23:28:34 UTC
I think in some ways Roland uses the tower as a coping mechanism to deal with what happened when he was young, and the great irony is that in doing so, it causes him the same loss

Very good point. I agree. yeah, I've been following the comics, and they're nice, but not really what I wanted. 9Also, if Susan burned to death, why would her ciorpse still have identifiable blonde hair? DETAILS. Also, I have a different vision of Alain in my mind.)

I totally love you too.

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sakuranochi December 21 2009, 09:52:20 UTC
Oh man, the comics, I'm like "I totally know all this already but I'm so gay for Jae Lee's art!!!". With the appropriate amount of exclaimation marks. I think doing it in the chronologically correct order makes it boring though, and Peter David is still a tool.

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thorne_scratch December 23 2009, 02:22:50 UTC
it is very pretty art. I just want more stories I don't already know!

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